Pics - 86/88 Station Wagons

[101RRS]

Does anyone have early colour pics of unrestored 86/88 Station Wagons? If so can you post them up.

I am reasonable satisfied of the colours and colour schemes that were available in the UK (car and hardtop in Gray or RAF Blue with Ivory White Tropical Roof) but I am not certain of colours and colour schemes available in Aust. Most likely only Gray but not sure of the colour of the hardtop (body colour or ivory white).

There are various views but pics would help me resolve the issue.

Thanks

Garry

[101RRS]

I guess the above is a hard task - basically I don't like Dove Gray and when I get stuck into my car I would like to paint it another original colour if one were available.

From discussions on the UK forum it has become clear that the SWs only came in Dove Gray and RAF Blue was a RAF colour, and other colours were either special order (Green) or for government/public organisations.

Also UK vehicles had the hardtop painted in the same colour as the body.

It would also seem the same colour rules applied in Aust - all Dove Gray and anything else is either special or a ring in. However not so sure about the colour of the hardtop. There is no real evidence I can find one way or the other except for my own vehicle which has a ivory white hardtop (could have been repainted) but also under the tropical roof it is also Ivory not Dove Gray indicating the white is original. The inside of the hardtop is the correct Dove Gray.

If anyone is able to shed light on Australian SWB SWs I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Wasn't the one that was auctioned off in western Victoria a year or so ago dark green?
I still have the sellers email somewhere if you're interested in asking if he has photo's.

[101RRS]

Thanks - if you have it that would be great - I didn't hear about that auction. Was the SW genuine or a replica? If green it was most likely repainted or a green basic made up to look like a SW.

Cheers

Garry

[JDNSW]

I strongly suspect that any (genuine) station wagons in Australia are fully imported, so colours comments from the UK would apply.

There were, I believe, "station wagons" assembled locally by adding most of the station wagon bits to otherwise standard hardtops. These would be in the same colours as the standard ones (unless a special fleet order).

John

[Dinty]

A mate had a S1 S/W almost 40years ago now, I can remember it being Grey all
over, it did have some panel damage etc, after repairs he painted it Olive Drab, I have a few pix of it in Olive Drab, but it could take me about a year to find them, as I have thousands of 35mm pix n slides, if I do come across them I will post them up, cheers Dennis

[101RRS]

I strongly suspect that any (genuine) station wagons in Australia are fully imported, so colours comments from the UK would apply.

There were, I believe, "station wagons" assembled locally by adding most of the station wagon bits to otherwise standard hardtops. These would be in the same colours as the standard ones (unless a special fleet order).

John

Hi John - as far as I am aware all (or near enough) SWB SWs were all assembled here by PMC. Without major modification it is difficult to fully convert a basic hardtop to one for a station wagon. Internal bracing is different and all the area around the rear door is different. I have compared both (got them both here) and while looking quickly there does not seem much different the pressings around the rear door are different.

Cheers

Garry

[101RRS]

After working the issues through with posters on the Uk site and working through comments in Taylors book, I have come to the following conclusions.

In the UK, the 86 station wagon was available in Gray and Blue and the hardtop was body colour with the Tropical Roof being Ivory White.

On advice from a poster I cut away some of the window rubbers on my hardtop and as they predicted it was gray underneath - so my hardtop has been repainted - they removed the Tropical Roof to do it but only masked the window rubbers.

So based on this and the confusing information in Taylors book, I believe the UK 88 Station Wagons were available in Green, Blue, Gray and Beige with the top being body colour.

How this relates to Aust PMC production I am not sure so a little more research here is needed.

Garry

[JDNSW]

Hi John - as far as I am aware all (or near enough) SWB SWs were all assembled here by PMC. Without major modification it is difficult to fully convert a basic hardtop to one for a station wagon. Internal bracing is different and all the area around the rear door is different. I have compared both (got them both here) and while looking quickly there does not seem much different the pressings around the rear door are different.

Cheers

Garry

I am surprised to hear that, but I assume you have support for it. Were they painted locally?

John

[101RRS]

I am surprised to hear that, but I assume you have support for it. Were they painted locally?

John

Hi John

The two swb station wagons I have personally sighted - mine and another - were both assembled by PMC in Sydney - both have the PMC plates.

I assume they were assembled the same way as other CKDs of the time with most, if not all components being in the 'flat pack' box. I am not sure if they were painted here or not (again I suspect would have been the same as other landies of the time). While most of the front panels and mechanicals could have been taken from a common pool of parts, considerable effort would have been needed to modify a standard tub to SW specs and likewise the same with the hardtop. So I believe these would have been in the SW CKD flatpack.

While we have delivery records it is a shame more information is not know about the assembly/construction of individual vehicles.

Cheers

Garry