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[Dockstrada]

Hi all, from the start since I bought my Defender, not new. I noticed that when I change gear particularly from 1st to 2nd they grind a little 3rd only on occasion.
Is this normal or do I have a clutch problem like air in the fluid or some other problem? I noticed that the clutch pedal takes up really early almost at the floor.

[bronzie66610]

Hello
I have a defender 130 since new. If i keep gear stick to the left it engages OK. It has done 120,000 k's and is getting better. Your problem matches mine, but there may be other problems although i think it is OK. Maybe take a little bit longer to change.
David

[Drover]

Don't Rush the changes.

Think of it like it is two shift for each change....1st to neutral-neutral to 2nd and so on.

[DeanoH]

It might be due to something as simple as the wrong lubricant in the gearbox.

On my 130 Tdi I drained what smelt like 140 grade oil from the gearbox (it didn't smell like 80W90) and replaced it with Castrol VMX80 with a tube of Nulon added and the change was very noticable. A big improvement in gear change 'smoothness' and 'quicker' between gears as well. It feels a lot better.


Deano

[Dockstrada]

Don't Rush the changes.

Think of it like it is two shift for each change....1st to neutral-neutral to 2nd and so on.

So what your saying is , don't drive it like an A9X ?

Ahh so its more like 1st to neutral 1/1000 2nd to neutral 1/1000 3rd and on and on ...............

I could have a sip of coffe and a chomp on a donut between gears .

[the_preacher1973]

So what your saying is , don't drive it like an A9X ?

Ahh so its more like 1st to neutral 1/1000 2nd to neutral 1/1000 3rd and on and on ...............

I could have a sip of coffe and a chomp on a donut between gears .

Not necessarily that slow. There should be a natural speed that the revs wall fall at and allow the lever to slot into the next gear without much resistance. When you can get it in gear using only your finger tips you've got it right.

I have to double de clutch mine when cold but once warmed up a little bit of mechanical sympathy goes a long way. (Note mine is an LT95 with 400k on the clock.)

[Quigley]

Further, on the Pumas the clutch master cylinder cap is a pain to remove due to the wiring harness on top of it. And the temptation is not to check the fluid level. It would be easy to loose your clutch from lack of fluid before you realized what was happening.

[Dockstrada]

Further, on the Pumas the clutch master cylinder cap is a pain to remove due to the wiring harness on top of it. And the temptation is not to check the fluid level. It would be easy to loose your clutch from lack of fluid before you realized what was happening.

Yeh I agree its tucked away, I had a look at the m/cylinder cap today with intentions to check the fluid , but thats all I did just a look.

I will check it tomorrow.

[Dockstrada]

Further, on the Pumas the clutch master cylinder cap is a pain to remove due to the wiring harness on top of it. And the temptation is not to check the fluid level. It would be easy to loose your clutch from lack of fluid before you realized what was happening.

Can anyone tell me what fluid is used in the Puma clutch master cylinder ? seems every fluid is some sort of an exotic type .

[Didge]

So what your saying is , don't drive it like an A9X ?

Ahh so its more like 1st to neutral 1/1000 2nd to neutral 1/1000 3rd and on and on ...............

I could have a sip of coffe and a chomp on a donut between gears .

I'd agree, you could even go slower and have a coffee with 2 e's.
Isnt' that what having a Defender is all about? relaxing, chilling out, watch the world go by (as you sip, chomp and change gears)