Bottle Jack or ???

[SVX37]

I am looking for the best and easiest solution for changing a tyre.

My question is simply, what size (lift height) Bottle Jack do I need for a Defender? Any particular brand anyone would recommend for relaibility?

I like the idea of a trolley Jack but they seem quite large to store in the Defender. Unless someone has a suggestion here as well???

I bought one at Supercheap and took it back because it wouldn't lift high enough

I don't like the standard Defender Jack and I am not a fan of a High Lift for changing a tyre.

Nigel

[steveG]

I use a hydraulic bottle jack I got from ebay. Had it for a couple of years so I don't recall the exact specs.
Basically you want something that has an extended height at least 50mm higher than from the ground to underneath of axle (so you can get a fully inflated tyre clear of the ground), and a minimum height thats less than the bottom of your rim (not tyre) to underside of axle (so you can still get it under the axle if you have a destroyed tyre or roll one off the bead).
If you're still running 255/85's then you'll need a taller jack than someone that's just running standard tyres.

D1 jacks might be an option as they seem to be reliable and quite light. They are 2-stage, but you'd want to confirm they have sufficient lifting range.

Steve

[modman]

I use a bottle jack of unknown origin (garage sale)
I also keep a sole plate of timber ( for the jack) construction ply about 300 x 300
Under the drivers seat as well
Its handy for all sorts of things!
If I was buying new I would get around the 2 tonne minimum
But as Steve said make sure it fits under the axle somewhere
When the tyre is dead flat
(Hard to dig a hole in the road )
Dc

[wannabeexplorer]

if you're carrying a high-lift anyway, why not take an axle stand for extra safety instead of another jack? (Just a suggestion; that'll take-up less room than a trolly jack)

[Mellow Yellow]

I looked into this some time ago before buying a new jack for Peril.

I think a "garage style" jack is impractical and researched two stage bottle jacks with at least two tonnes capacity and at least 180mm stroke (plus screw).

The jacks readily available in places like Supercheap and Repco don't have the required stroke.

I eventually found a range of South African made jacks on the internet and bought a Larzep AB30421 4 tonne two stage jack with a stroke of 190mm and a 65mm screw. Larzep Hydraulics > Hydraulic Bottle Jacks Technical Specifications

The downside was that it wasn't cheap and I had to buy it through a hydraulics place out Liverpool way. The upside was that it's perfect for the Defender.

If I was to go about the exercise again I would go to the guys at Truckline as they stock a good range of jacks and generally are well priced in what they sell.

[rick130]

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D1 jacks might be an option as they seem to be reliable and quite light. They are 2-stage, but you'd want to confirm they have sufficient lifting range.

Steve

Is the D1 jack the same as a 130 jack ?

If so, I don't rate them at all.

FWIW I use an 8 tonne rated dual stage Armstrong bottle jack and it fits in the spot where the crappy OE bottle jack sat, albeit it's a lot taller.

It almost doesn't fit under the Sals axle tube with a dead flat tyre, but more than lifts high enough to change 255/85's and has more than enough grunt to lift a fully loaded 130.

[Michael2]

I use a bottle jack from a Range Rover Classic (same as Disco - the only difference between D1 and D2 is the shape of the base, so that it fits in the D2.) I like the yoke at the top that locates well ender the axle or the radius arms and doesn't slip when lifting.

I think Land Rover bean counters don't drive Land Rovers - why would anon put a wind up jack that lifts the body, on the car with the worlds longest suspension travel!!!? The body teeters at a ridiculous height with the standard jack.

[TimNZ]

I think Land Rover bean counters don't drive Land Rovers - why would anon put a wind up jack that lifts the body, on the car with the worlds longest suspension travel!!!? The body teeters at a ridiculous height with the standard jack.

I don't know if that's LRUK or LRAUST deciding on which jack is supplied. My '08 110 had the "hi-lift" type, the '10 has the 2 stage bottle type.

I believe the local dealer/LR AUST does what ever is cheapest, for example the '10 doesn't have a net pocket on the back door where the '08 did. Price difference is about $15

Cheers,

[VladTepes]

Is the D1 jack the same as a 130 jack ?

If so, I don't rate them at all.

FWIW I use an 8 tonne rated dual stage Armstrong bottle jack and it fits in the spot where the crappy OE bottle jack sat, albeit it's a lot taller.

It almost doesn't fit under the Sals axle tube with a dead flat tyre, but more than lifts high enough to change 255/85's and has more than enough grunt to lift a fully loaded 130.

No the D1 jack is superior in every way and rebuildable - there's a project on it from blknight in the relevant forum somewhere.

I have a D1 bottle jack which I used without drama, and have a steel plate to put under it to avoid situations where the jack would sink into the ground... as everyone should have.

Do NOT use an airbag jack whatever the hell you do <-- learn from others' stupidity.

The Armstrong jacks are very good, but probably more expensive than a 2nd hand D1 jack !

[Reads90]

Personally I use a hi lift

Yeah dangerous in the hands of idiots but I find then good for changing tyres. But only for changing tyres. You need your head read if you get under the car while on the hi lift. And the defender adapter is a must.

But they are quick and easy and store really nicely under the rear seats in the Defender. So out if the way until you need it.

I use hi lift because if you are in the mud or difficult terrain a bottle jack just won't do it for you.

At home I use a trolley jack which can't be beat but far to big to take with you every where.