G wagon hopeless

[lardy]

My mate a major in acquisitions confirmed something told to me by a mate in the pilbara recce mob, the g wagon has a fording button for river crossings that HAS to be pressed prior to a paddle coming to a complete stop to activate it, should be great when doing a tactical withdrawal under fire then, oh they were great in the snowy mountains under test but went into limp mode because of the heat up north.
Another great investment for the tax payers dollars then!

[2stroke]

Well THAT'S progress! Do you know what the button does?

[Blknight.aus]

essentially shuts down the power to the alternators.

[2stroke]

Would you really need to stop to press that? Are the G's an actual improvement on the Rovers?

[Ralph1Malph]

essentially shuts down the power to the alternators.

Yep, has two alternators, one mid mounted, one low mounted. The switch removes energisation from them. That's all!
In the interest of balance, and believe me, I am yet to be sold on the Gbanger, but my unit has had them for 4 mths now and I have done over 2000km alone in mine. Not one reliability or design problem. To be fair, we have had damage by drivers, but that surely can't count.
In contrast, I can't keep the fenders on the road! In the shop, out the shop, in the shop, out the shop, jeez, just take a Gbanger!

We also need to bear in mind that we have changed mission profile in the ADF these days. We generally do far less 'leyland brothers' stuff. No need for the passenger to sit on the brush guard with a machete. I would estimate that 96% of all our km will be done on blacktop and 99% will be at least formed tracks and roads.
Like any new bit of kit, we have yet to adjust our procedures, load patterns, tactics etc.

Cheers
Ralph

[F4Phantom]

The huge advantage is better power and fuel economy which for onroad is very nice, aircon, automatic, double diff locks. Of course some people want to be able to have great skill in off road situations and the Gwagon will not do that so much, but it will make the average uninterested driver an excellent driver and that does matter.

I am sure once they are not new anymore the army will start to see all the components which need regular attendance so for the moment its hard to compare an old landy with a brand new car, I am sure when the landies were new they were also reliable for the first 2 years.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The whole argument is moot.

Mercedes won the contract that Land Rover Australia didn't tender for and given that the Land Rovers currently in the sand pit don't go outside the base we maybe should have bought Toyota HiLux off the showroom floor.

After all the HiLux is used by more military forces than any other vehicle in the World.

[JamesH]

The whole argument is moot.

After all the HiLux is used by more military forces than any other vehicle in the World.

They may be technically true, but it doesn't count. When I see Hiluxes on the news they always loaded up with the baddies.

Has a baddie army or militia ever used Landies? Even in Africa where there would be heaps of them to commandeer/steal they don't seem to. It's like there is some deep primal thing inside us that says "goodies drive Landies, baddies drive the other rubbish". No self respecting baddie would be seen dead commiting crimes against humanity in a Defender.

It's a bit like black hats and white hats...

[juddy]

After all the HiLux is used by more military forces than any other vehicle in the World.

More so than Land Rover????

[Disco Muppet]

They may be technically true, but it doesn't count. When I see Hiluxes on the news they always loaded up with the baddies.

Has a baddie army or militia ever used Landies? Even in Africa where there would be heaps of them to commandeer/steal they don't seem to. It's like there is some deep primal thing inside us that says "goodies drive Landies, baddies drive the other rubbish". No self respecting baddie would be seen dead commiting crimes against humanity in a Defender.

It's a bit like black hats and white hats...

The Taliban chase Delta boys in "The Unit" in LandRovers.
The bad bloke has a Tdi defender in "The Expendables"
The Cuban drug dealer chases Will Smith and Martin Lawrence down the hill in a Landie, and I'm pretty sure there's a 101FC in Bad Boys II as well.
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