Puma slight power loss - any ideas?

[The Cone of Silence]

Morning all

Could really use your help today with Monty ('08 110 Wagon) as time is not on my side.

I drove from North Sydney to Mortdale this morning as Daniel at Mulgo is installing my roof rack, awning and rooftop tent for me before I go away on a trip up to Tamworth and surrounds tomorrow...terribly excited...a mate's birthday at Willow Tree....but I digress.

The problem
On the way down to Mortdale, while travelling at 80kph through the tunnel on the M5, I noticed a sudden drop in power - down to about 75% of what I'd usually expect. Throttle response was sluggish - acceleration wasn't 'all there'.

Conditions

• Road was flat to very slight incline.
• Temperature gauge read below halfway and the radiator and intercooler are pretty mud free after some sustained hosing. Ambient temperature was below 20C I'd say.
• No engine warning light

I got to Mortdale ok - with sustained engine performance below what I'm used to, i.e. for another ten minutes and with stops and starts at lights etc, it still seemed to have about 75% of the usual acceleration. My first thought was that perhaps the turbo wasn't working but the turbo noise was certainly there.

Further problem
At one point the hazard warning lights came on all by themselves and after about a second, switched themselves off.
This could be the result of some ham-fisted gorilla installing my new stereo last weekend (a normal sized unit) and messing about with the wires behind it but that remains to be seen.

These don't sound like related issues to me but Pumas never fail to surprise me...so I shan't rule it out.

Thoughts?

Water/ dirt in fuel?
EGR?
Hoses?

Does it sound like something I can fix this evening when I pick up the vehicle or is it sounding like a spare part is required. Would hate to miss out on my trip after Hannibal Safari and Mulgo have gone to such an effort to ensure the gear is ready on time for its maiden voyage (top effort boys, well done and thank you!)

A very nervous Bobby (Monty is out of warranty).

[TimNZ]

Hi, it's worth checking the fuel line between the filter and tank. I have read of blockages here causing the symptoms you describe, (mainly in the UK however).

Best of luck,

Tim

[carlschmid2002]

Morning all

Could really use your help today with Monty ('08 110 Wagon) as time is not on my side.

I drove from North Sydney to Mortdale this morning as Daniel at Mulgo is installing my roof rack, awning and rooftop tent for me before I go away on a trip up to Tamworth and surrounds tomorrow...terribly excited...a mate's birthday at Willow Tree....but I digress.

The problem
On the way down to Mortdale, while travelling at 80kph through the tunnel on the M5, I noticed a sudden drop in power - down to about 75% of what I'd usually expect. Throttle response was sluggish - acceleration wasn't 'all there'.

Conditions

• Road was flat to very slight incline.
• Temperature gauge read below halfway and the radiator and intercooler are pretty mud free after some sustained hosing. Ambient temperature was below 20C I'd say.
• No engine warning light

I got to Mortdale ok - with sustained engine performance below what I'm used to, i.e. for another ten minutes and with stops and starts at lights etc, it still seemed to have about 75% of the usual acceleration. My first thought was that perhaps the turbo wasn't working but the turbo noise was certainly there.

Further problem
At one point the hazard warning lights came on all by themselves and after about a second, switched themselves off.
This could be the result of some ham-fisted gorilla installing my new stereo last weekend (a normal sized unit) and messing about with the wires behind it but that remains to be seen.

These don't sound like related issues to me but Pumas never fail to surprise me...so I shan't rule it out.

Thoughts?

Water/ dirt in fuel?
EGR?
Hoses?

Does it sound like something I can fix this evening when I pick up the vehicle or is it sounding like a spare part is required. Would hate to miss out on my trip after Hannibal Safari and Mulgo have gone to such an effort to ensure the gear is ready on time for its maiden voyage (top effort boys, well done and thank you!)

A very nervous Bobby (Monty is out of warranty).

There seems to be a run of loose Turbo hoses recently. That's where I would start.

[Marty110]

yeah, check the bottom intercooler hose - they rub on the steering and can fail - this happened to me and now have replaced with Terrafirma silicone hoses as they are better and much cheaper than the crappy LR rubber ones - then zip tie the lower hose up off the steering. Hope this is all it is

[Marty110]

P.S. If Daniel has a Nanocom, plug it in and the error sode for turbo underboost will read if it is the intercooler hose - but then crawling under the car and having a look will tell you too!!....

[The Cone of Silence]

Thanks guys. I'll have a butchers at it this evening and hopefully it's just a worn hose that I can get replaced tomorrow first thing. Inquiries have already been made regarding a new performance intercooler and silicone hose kit.

I'm assuming that if it's a worn hose, I'd be belching black smoke out of the exhaust from over-fuelling?

I'll keep an eye out for it. Either way, a bit of a nurse home is in order first of all.

Bobby

[camel_landy]

Thanks guys. I'll have a butchers at it this evening and hopefully it's just a worn hose that I can get replaced tomorrow first thing. Inquiries have already been made regarding a new performance intercooler and silicone hose kit.

I'm assuming that if it's a worn hose, I'd be belching black smoke out of the exhaust from over-fuelling?

It depends on where in the system it is... e.g. If the hose has come off before an air-flow sensor, you won't notice anything as the sensor will be detecting a drop in air-flow and therefore reducing the fuel.

Check the hoses, air filter, etc... but if the car is still running smoothly, not belching smoke, etc... I'd suspect something like the throttle potentiometer.

HTH

M

[Babs]

Have you checked the Dilithium Crystals and the Flux Capacitor?

Nah just kidding sorry I cant help, I really hope it amounts to something very simple and inexpensive, good luck. Let us know how you go.

[justinc]

In all likelihood, you may have inadvertently snagged your toe hitch on another vehicle at the traffic lights prior to entering the tunnel,, and towed them all the way to Mortdale. Did you check for an attached B double or other similar sized object?

Seriously now, the intercooler hoses are my first thought, especially the one near the steering column

JC

[newhue]

Have you checked the Dilithium Crystals and the Flux Capacitor?

Nah just kidding sorry I cant help, I really hope it amounts to something very simple and inexpensive, good luck. Let us know how you go.

Babs, don't get to cheeky, you pick yours up today so your adventure is just starting. Lets hope the new Ddci is minimal on the wrong kind of adventure.