Stage 1 Electronic ignition conversion

[Landie333]

Hi all. I apologise if i'm posting in the wrong forum.

I've been looking at converting the stage 1's points igniton to electronic. I've done some research and I don't seem to be able to find any bad feedback on them.

My first question is: For those who have converted their point ignitions to electronic, what have your experiences with them?

Secondly, I can find two suppliers/ manufacturers of kits.
Electronic Ignition Conversion Kits for Lucas 4-cylinder, 6-cylinder and 8-cylinder Distributors

PerTronix - IGNITOR II LUCAS 8 CYL
PerTronix - IGNITOR II LUCAS 8 CYL RANGE ROVER

Has anyone has experience with these two different brands? Good/ bad? Any inputs, comments, feedback wanted

Many thanks in advance

[trump500]

gday mate pertronix is ok but first you want to determine the condition of your dizzy you might be better off getting a dizzy and module out of a late 3.9 disco with minimal wear

[Mick_Marsh]

Mine is electronic.
There is lots of info if you have a bit of a search.
For a start, have a read here:
Lucas ignition amplifier replacement by Bosch 024

[redrovertdi]

When i had an 83 rangie i converted to electronic ignition, from wreckers got a later model distributor and coil and the 12-6volt wire to run from the ignition barrel, made the car start-idle and perform better, if i had known the result was to be so good i would have done it sooner.
Richard

[Landie333]

gday mate pertronix is ok but first you want to determine the condition of your dizzy you might be better off getting a dizzy and module out of a late 3.9 disco with minimal wear

Mine is electronic.
There is lots of info if you have a bit of a search.
For a start, have a read here:
Lucas ignition amplifier replacement by Bosch 024

When i had an 83 rangie i converted to electronic ignition, from wreckers got a later model distributor and coil and the 12-6volt wire to run from the ignition barrel, made the car start-idle and perform better, if i had known the result was to be so good i would have done it sooner.
Richard

Awsome, thanks for the info fellas. It's made me change my mind and I think I will convert the distributor instead of just converting the points. Probably cheaper too.

I had done some searching about points conversions, but wasn't aware of the possibility of converting the whole distributor. But I will do some research on that.

Are all the dizzys out of the 3.9 and EFI 3.5 the same? Or are some unable to be used?

[bee utey]

All Rover V8 distributors are interchangeable in their basic arrangement.

You may have to change the drive dog for the oil pump.

Dates approximately:

'94-on (serpentine engines) distributors don't have an oil pump drive at all.

'84-85 RRC distributors have a large remote module that is best avoided.

'96-98 D1 distributors have a remote ignition module.

Most '86-'95 distributors (3.5 or 3.9) have the ignition module on the side of the distributor, where it is subject to engine heat in our summer weather.

All of the above electronic distributors have the same kind of magnetic pickup inside and will run the Bosch conversion I have described (in the thread linked by Mick Marsh). With careful attention to the oil pump drive length all of the above can be used on an early 3.5 engine.

Complete ready to fit electronic distributors are available on ebay. I have no idea how good they are. Example:

Land Rover Range Rover V8 35D Distributor & Lucas DLB198 High Energy Ignition | eBay

[Landie333]

Awsome, thankyou kindly for the information. I now need to go out and start looking and familiarising myself.

[Landie333]

Ok,

So after a certain amount of doing nothing and a certain amount of searching, I have been offered a complete dizzy, module and coil out of a "P76 4.4". Correct me if i'm wrong, but a P76 4.4 is a Leyland and carbie....

I spent some time on Google and obviously with no avail. Is anyone able to help me out with info on this?

[redrovertdi]

You wanted to go electronic, a p76 is not, its just old.

[AdsLandies]

I have an early Lucas electronic ignition set-up in my stage1. The only problem I've had is two over heated modules which stops everything dead. I keep the original points distributor, coil and resistor under the seat just in case - and have needed it those couple of times. Last time I changed the module, I mounted it in on an aluminium heatsink and moved it away from the hot engine and it's been fine for many many years now.
I much prefer the electronic set up, particularly since there are no longer points to adjust or burn out, plus it doesn't get affected by moisture. You can hose off all the splashed up mud from around the distributor and it will still start - never did with the points set-up.