How Good is the 2.7 V6 Diesel?

[geodon]

Mother has decreed that she MUST have a bigger car. I'm stuffed if I know why as we are Empty Nesters.

I can't afford a new Disco (without selling some of the Motoring Crown Jewels) and we don't need 4WD anyway so like a true blue Geelong lad, I'm looking at a Ford Territory 2WD. The cheapest ones have the bullet-proof 4.0 Falcon motor but which on this model is a notorious fuel guzzler. I think it's about 5-6km per litre at best. LPG conversion to a non-backfiring injection system is $4,200 but the spare wheel then goes in the luggage compartment.That's a big maternal no-no, however. Pity! Most LPG Falcon taxis clock up about a million km without much drama.

Soooooooo, I looked at the diesel option & got very excited when I saw it's the same as what's powering Land Rovers!

It's been doing that since 2005, I think, and that should be enough time to expose any weaknesses.

OK! Hit me with your songs of praise or tales of anguish.

If it's HALF as good as the 4 cylinder ones have been, That may be good enough.

[jonesy63]

My brother has a RWD Titanium model Territory with the 2.7L TDV6. I drove it from Sydney down to Lakes Entrance (Victoria) and back last year. The Ford being heaps lighter, it goes really well. Excellent fuel economy too - about 7L/100km if I recall. The six speed in them is a variant of the ZF gearbox from the D3 as well.

I've had a D3 2.7 and now 2.7 D4... nothing wrong with the motors. There were injection problems on the D3, but that was a teething problem with the first Euro IV motors, which has been sorted.

If only Ford Australia bought that motor to the market earlier...

[AnD3rew]

You won't be unhappy, it is a lovely motor, lots of torque, lots of get up and go, quite economical and pretty quiet.

[theresanothersteve]

Love the motor. In a D3 its not embarrassed in traffic, sings on the open road with enough left to overtake smartly. If they had put it in the Falcon (if it fits a Territory it must fit the 'coon) I probably would've bought one...

[rb30gtr]

Love the motor. In a D3 its not embarrassed in traffic, sings on the open road with enough left to overtake smartly. If they had put it in the Falcon (if it fits a Territory it must fit the 'coon) I probably would've bought one...

Couldn't agree more, if the 2.7tdv6 was in the FG I would have bought one myself.

That or a powerstroke version...

I almost bought a Territory with the 2.7 tdv6, and ended up getting an 07 D3 HSE for 20 grand less.

[DoubleChevron]

That's the PSA(Citroen/poogoe)/Ford diesel. The version used in the territory is the ancient single turbo lowest powered one. It's been used for years in the Citroen C6/C5, Jaguars, Land Rover and poogoes. I'm not aware of any issues with it (not that a lot were sold in Australia fitted too Citroens... that I'm more familiar with than fords).

My parents purchased new a AWD deisel territory... AWD 'cos two wheel drive is useless as tits on a bull for towing (they previously had a 2wd 3litre turbo diesel twin cab ute thing..... Damn useless bloody thing constantly got bogged, even on a wet bit of grass. I had to tow it back to my driveway using my poor old Citroen CX several times 'cos even with a slippery diff under it ... a bit of wet grass would bog it... the Citroen CX being a decent FWD car doesn't get bogged like the RWD junk... Even without a limited slip diff it'll drag a uselessly bogged 3ton 2wd and itself back onto the drive without slipping a wheel). Anyway they reckon the territory is great. I doubt you'll notice the lack of power compared to the petrol engine. The only "oddity" they have found is the trannie will start mostly in 2nd gear. So if you punch it hard off the line ... .there's a delay (seems big when your in a hurry to pull out). This is the transmission changing back to 1st as it senses your in a hurry before it moves off. This can be avoided by putting the transmission into power mode. Especially useful for when your towing.

Modern diesels are nothing like the old clunkers from years back. My wife has a poogoe 407 with a weeny little 2litre diesel in it, dragging a car that weighs in at over 1.7tons ( ). Other than being quite laggy, the bloody thing goes extremelly well (combined with a 6spd manual gearbox) while sipping 6.xxL/100km

EDIT: Wow .... Do you really have a Big 6 ..... drrooooollll..... Is it a "H" ?

seeya,
Shane L.

[geodon]

I've no doubts the thing will perform well.

It's the longevity that concerns me.

I've had 2 diesels to date:

1. a late 80's Pajero that cracked a head every year for 3 years- once in warranty then twice out. Then the turbo crapped itself so I put it down.

2. A Jackaroo (Isuzu) that could NOT be stopped from leaking fuel into the oil via the injectors. On a common rail engine that means a misfire & it started @ 80K and progressively got worse. I lost count of the no. of times Mother staggered into a carpark (usually Maccas) Then I raced out changed the oil & off it went. Until the next time. I got down to oil changes every 2-3000km & decided that was that; it had to go.

With that history, I'm beginning to believe that the Japanese have not mastered the art of making smaller diesels. Big trucks, maybe but cars, no.

Toyota is not immune. Just Google D4 diesel and look at the hundreds of reports of a loud knocking noise from that motor that powers HiLuxes etc.

OTOH, Europeans seem to make diesels that go forever, eg Golfs and those legendary 240D Mercedes.

Is the 2.7 TDV6 inn that category??

[discojools]

geodon,
I think you mean D4D diesel..That's the one in the Hilux..And yes a mate of mine has a Prado that had just reached 200k only for the engine to crap itself. $15000 to fix..
Interesting to see how many 2.7 Discos have passed that amount of ks.

Jools

[Rich84]

Plenty on here with over 200k.

Mine has 191k and feels like a new car. Engine is fantastic, love it, no regrets.

[geodon]

Don't know what's a "H".

It's a '49 with the 3 spoke steering wheel