American shootings

[disco man]

Yet another shooting in the USA this time in Vegas. How many more lives will be lost over there before something is done.I have spent a bit of time in the states and what shocked me was the love of guns some people have over there,the further south you go the more the love gets stronger.

A bloke i met at a car show in Alabama invited me to his place for a BBQ and to say i was blown away by his cache of guns was a understatement. In the Chev truck a colt 45 in the glovebox a 9mm pistol under the seat a single barrel shotgun behind the seats.

He also showed me some what looked like military grade weapons,in total i would say this bloke would have close to 20 guns between the house and car.But all his friends at the BBQ all had around the same sort of arsenal of guns and to all of them it just seemed normal even natural.


When i told them about Queensland gun laws they were horrified at what they called the lack of freedom to buy and own guns that Queenslander's have.In the mid-west states you can't walk far down a street without coming across a gun shop,i don't remember the state in was in at the time but i was able to obtain a temp permit to buy a pistol and after a few weeks cooling of period i could buy whatever the shop was selling if i wanted to bloody crazy!!!


You can buy guns at department stores in the sports section,in Texas so many people walk around with guns on the hip very strange sight for a Aussie or Kiwi.In LA i was pulled over for some dodgy driving as i was still getting used to the road rules.The cop had his gun drawn as he approached the car another first for me.

The culture SOME Americans have towards guns is just plain crazy and i think because of how strong that culture is the thought of changing the laws will never happen.I was just wondering if anyone had some thoughts or anything to add on this topic because i for one just don't understand it.

[nealo]

Its always a touchy subject, though you have asked the questions in a fact seeking, non hysterical manner. I applaude you, so I'll have a crack at adding to the thread

I believe the US have such a close connection with their firearms is that they really are the birthplace of the modern firearms we see today.
A collectors passion for Single Action Army Colts, and 1911's could be likened to our passion for Holdens, and the appreciation for the ingenuity, engineering, and historical value. Remember we were only just colonised whilst they were busy having a civil war!!
I believe this close connection to their history has created the so called culture, and the passion for collecting
In Australia it has just created bogans and hoons!!

I also own close to 20 firearms, but is that also an arsenal ?...many of my friends own similar quantities or more. You'd be surprised how many people out there have these "arsenals", but they all have their specific legitimate use for competition use or vermin destruction

Some of mine are military grade (WW2 303's ), and we owe many of our current firearms and calibres to military advancements. Many modern sporting firearms use the same action as the military ones, except they arent black and scary.

Once upon a time you could also buy firearms in K-Mart in Australia!!!, but that was in SA, and well...its SA

These are my thoughts...hope this gives another persons point of view
(and haven't offended any South Australians)

[disco man]

Its always a touchy subject, though you have asked the questions in a fact seeking, non hysterical manner. I applaude you, so I'll have a crack at adding to the thread

I believe the US have such a close connection with their firearms is that they really are the birthplace of the modern firearms we see today.
A collectors passion for Single Action Army Colts, and 1911's could be likened to our passion for Holdens, and the appreciation for the ingenuity, engineering, and historical value. Remember we were only just colonised whilst they were busy having a civil war!!
I believe this close connection to their history has created the so called culture, and the passion for collecting
In Australia it has just created bogans and hoons!!

I also own close to 20 firearms, but is that also an arsenal ?...many of my friends own similar quantities or more. You'd be surprised how many people out there have these "arsenals", but they all have their specific legitimate use for competition use or vermin destruction

Some of mine are military grade (WW2 303's ), and we owe many of our current firearms and calibres to military advancements. Many modern sporting firearms use the same action as the military ones, except they arent black and scary.

Once upon a time you could also buy firearms in K-Mart in Australia!!!, but that was in SA, and well...its SA

These are my thoughts...hope this gives another persons point of view
(and haven't offended any South Australians)

Thanks for the reply mate good info in there,maybe arsenal is a strong word so no offence meant by that.

[nealo]

No worries

Unfortunately these shooting are very sad, and the latest is no different

No doubt we will go through the "disarm the public" hysteria again as usual and the media will run with it and get every $$ they can out of it.

Criminals don't care if a firearm is licensed, prohibited, illegal etc...they are criminals! In this latest incident they just seem to be complete whacko's!!

[disco man]

Yep criminals don't give a ****,but what i found troubling while i was in the states was the ease in which firearms can be obtained.I feel everybody has the right to defend themselves,family,property or even enjoy hunting so disarming the public is not the answer and i don't know what the answer is.

But steps need to be taken to stop nutjobs being able to kill people so easily.

[discovery39]

Something for us all to look forward to here in OZ..........
As more and more people become unemployed, and can't afford the things they need.
(or as they see it, want).

[nealo]

More people are killed with motor vehicles per year than firearms. Its awfully easy to get a license for one of them !!
Judging by the amount of idiots behind the wheel more should be done to control these lunatics


Woah..now I'm starting to wander off topic, before you know it we'll be discussing culling sharks

[discovery39]

Yes, it does seem an idiotic idea culling the Sharks, given that they probably have more respect for one another than we do.................

[olbod]

The yanks have got it right.
Culling people is a better idea than culling sharks.

And here I was thinking that they were becoming a nation of sick people.

[ramblingboy42]

this must be why we are suddenly running out of ammo