5 guns that every sporting shooter (supposedly) needs

[TerryO]

Came across this YouTube video by accident, while I have always enjoyed shooting and used to go hunting when I was much younger for the life of me I can't understand why these blokes reckon these five 'guns' (as they put it even though at least one of them is a rifle) are a good idea for sporting shooters to own.

After watching it to be frank I don't know what sport they are supposedly talking about.


[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OYjbSGO30K0[/ame]

[gossamer]

everyone needs a 12 guage shotgun that shoots 15 rounds in 3 sec and a Barrett 50 cal for when the zombies are coming

[Slunnie]

everyone needs a 12 guage shotgun that shoots 15 rounds in 3 sec and a Barrett 50 cal for when the zombies are coming

Bit of zombie rat-shot in the 50cal.

[Seriestwo]

I am unsure as to why a 50cal would be needed for hunting but I am more surprised anyone can purchase one from a gun shop. But then I wonder how many people have been robbed and shot by a person using a 50cal... probably not many.

Chris

[S3ute]

Hello from Brisbane.

Watching the video it didn't occur to me that those two savants were really talking about necessary hunting tools at all.

The central thesis of the clip from my viewing was "what 5 guns might you like to get a hold of that the guv'mnt might prefer you didn't" and/or "what 5 guns are the pinko media most likely to track down when wanting to highlight what the looney gun freaks are hiding in the back of the cupboard".

The final choice seems to have worked, based on the response to the thread along the lines of "what the hell do you need those for"?

Having been to one or two American gun shops, especially in the South and Southwest for a bit of low entertainment I found myself asking the same question.

Cheers,

[TerryO]

All through the clip the two blokes kept saying these five guns are just sporting shooters guns, nothing special etc. so they didn't know what all the fuss was about. As I said I'm not really sure what sport they are actually talking about.

There were some pearls of wisdom though that no one can argue with, when they said those five guns were no more deadly then any other gun, which is true. One well placed .22 slug can kill you just as dead as a .50 cal from 2,000 metres away or a 15 shoot 12 gauge after the shooter has pulled the trigger for just three seconds and emptied all 15 shots into you, or what's more the case what's left of you.

At the end of the clip it also had in writing something like these are five guns to buy before the government outlaws them, kind of speaks for itself in my opinion.

[gossamer]

and the top 5 for home defence ???
the pistol that takes 4.10 shells is interesting though
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpMEin8D4c[/ame]

[gossamer]

after learning which is the best gun to buy now watch how to use them ?????
(some language)

*Video deleted because of language.

[TerryO]

Especially giving a hand gun to a 2 year old at a party, I guess that is what you call rough justice.

Unfortunately the video Gossamer put up had inappropriate language in it so it can't be shown on the forum so it has been deleted, but its easy to find if you look at the other related videos available on YouTube.

I think its called 'Idiots with guns'

[phibbzy]

I am confused to start with, the post is around one thing and the video is about something completely different. The irony being that the video is about misconceptions around firearms and your post is about how a commonly used type of firearm could not possibly have any use... lol

Sporting rifle means a whole different thing in a country where firearms arn't cloaked in villainous intent, blood, murder & chaos.

Essentially, the term sporting rifle was created to ACCURATELY describe the type of firearms commonly used by civilians in a sporting pursuit. This was done essentially to combat the media's use of the term "Assault rifle" and to give an accurate name to a specific design of the common gas operated semi automatic rifle.

To put it simply:
THIS RIFLE

AND THIS RIFLE


ARE IDENTICAL. They are both .223 Remington caliber, gas operated semi automatic rifles with 16.5" barrels and standard capacity magazines. They are IDENTICAL in fit, form and function. Only the design of operation differs.

Both are rifles however one is a sporting rifle and one is a ranch rifle.

I can tell you from experience that one rifle is as effective at the purpose it is employed for as the other.

Perhaps the term has confused you into considering that for a sporting rifle of the type we have in Australia that these would be bad choices however a great deal of hunters and competitive shooters would have a semi automatic or FIVE in their safes if they were permitted for such a use.

These guns look scary because everyone's seen Rambo and movies with people jumping from 10 floors up nailing 5 guys on the way down with one.

Sporting rifles are not & never were a problem in America.

In America between 2008-2011 from FBI data only 323 to 380 deaths could be attributed to RIFLES - including bolt action, lever, pump & semi-auto. This also includes SUICIDES & police action.

The same years saw between 8500 & 9500 people die to HAND GUNS. The disparity has been linked through various studies to be demographically & geographically linked to gangs & organized crime.

Note also that during the 1994-2004 Federal Weapons Ban in the united states, deaths from the type of firearms prohibited by the ban dropped ONE WHOLE PERCENT. It then continued to drop after the ban lifted.

The main reason there will not be another weapons ban is that IT DID NOTHING BEFORE, so why do it again?

Hand guns are only slightly more regulated than long arms in Australia.

The way you wrap the firearm, be it with plastic or wood with pistol grips and fancy bolt ons plays no effect to the operation of the rifle.

In regards to a .50cal rifle - you can own and shoot them in Australia on the same permit that allows you to own a .223 bolt action rifle or a .303 SMLE.

I find it remarkable that all throughout modern history the global map has been dominated by authoritarian governments, foreign invasions & annexations yet the concept that a specific country freed by a war for independence and founded on freedom & liberty gives its people the right to protect themselves against that is seen as talk of a mad man.

The authorities in America are literally driving tanks down the streets to curb protests, shooting anyone that twitches the wrong way, using SWAT teams to arrest sleeping people for dope (and not finding any or getting the address on the no-knock warrant WRONG), spying on the population en mass & generally doing their hardest not to give 2 ****s about what the population wants or needs.

Don't get me wrong - I am all for Licensing & safe storage but there is just genuinely no reason to prohibit a firearm on its looks or operation and if you want to dress a common rifle type up to fit a specific purpose you have weather it be busting bunnies or slapping steel it makes no bloody difference in reality.