What to buy a 300tdi or a Toyota?

[cafe latte]

Probably a loaded question on this forum, but why should I buy a Land Rover?
I always wanted one but I bought a series petrol for the farm and was cured at least for the time being of Landrveritis. I swapped the motor for a 2.25 diesel and I am a lot happier at least it does not stall in a puddle. All the same I am posting here for some unknown reason and I am still looking at Land Rovers, I must be mad!!
I have a very reliable Nissan, F truck (F100 with a Perkins diesel) and a couple of older Toyotas. am starting to travel a bit with a caravan as I am in the North QLD team FTR (shooting) so I need a tow 4x4.
Non of my 4x4's have a turbo so travelling is slowwwwwww!!.
I have a few ideas a, one is a newer Toyota v8 diesel but that used is 35 grand and I hate spending on cars. Option 2 is keep the Nissan and sell the older Hj60 Toyota slooowww.. and get a 300tdi Land Rover, and use the Nissan or the get a newer Land Rover and use the Nissan as a second 4x4. I have rebuilt most of my engines tractors, even a dozer, so I can fix stuff myself but I dont want a heap of trouble either. I am thinking the 300 tdi for me as I can fix it but I am used to Toyota too and as much as I am able I dont want to spend my spare time under the darn thing.
Ok I could spend a heap on a newish car or I get a good older car like a 300tdi or something else. What do you think?
I need a tough 4x4 as I am on 600 acres in the tropic and in the wet it is big time mud.
What to do??
Thanks everyone
Chris

[Mick_Marsh]

Chris, with a username like that, I woud suggest a Discovery 4 is your only choice.
Might be a little out of your budget though.

Oh, welcome to the forum.

[DasLandRoverMan]

Cummins powered 101 for sale in SA, now that would be the thing for towing with...

[Robmacca]

If u want to tow, I'm not sure if the Tdi300 would be any faster than your old 60series.... it would however be A LOT more comfy though...

There's not a lot of choices these days if u want to stay away from computer controlled Diesel 4WD's....

What about a Defender 110? TD5 or Tdi ??

or the last of the TD5 Discoveries ??

[cafe latte]

Chris, with a username like that, I woud suggest a Discovery 4 is your only choice.
Might be a little out of your budget though.

Oh, welcome to the forum.

Thanks. Actually cafe latte was chosen a long time ago for another forum I post on (hifi related). I was trying to decide what to call myself on the forum when a cow the missus called Cafe latte due to its color mooed at me through the window. My missus is Italian so they all have daft Italian names (the breeders anyway). I prefer my coffee a lot stronger
Discos are a bit small in the back really, especially for going to shoots with as I take quite a lot of stuff.
Chris

[eeyore]

What about an earlier Isuzu-powered 110 - either civilian or ex-army Perentie - plus a turbo? (eg Kinugawa Turbocharger TD04HL 19T With Isuzu 4BD1 Turbo Manifold in Doncaster, VIC | eBay

The 4BD1 Isuzu is near indestructible, needs little maintenance and with a turbo, has massive torque for towing. The pre-Defender 110s have stronger drivetrains, Perenties with galavanised chassis'. Downside is the Isuzus are much noisier than the 200/300 tdi's, obviously worse still with a soft top Perentie (which most are). Soft top brings other issues too, although I'm sure someone on the forum has fitted a ute cab to his Perentie which would mitigate some of the drawbacks (eg noise, comfort, security).

[Vern]

Get a perentie, bang a Turbo and power steer box on and your set, it'll then do anything and go anywhere you want. 300tdi won't pull the foreskin off a leper when it comes to towing.

[rangieman]

Get a perentie, bang a Turbo and power steer box on and your set, it'll then do anything and go anywhere you want. 300tdi won't pull the foreskin off a leper when it comes to towing.

You have a way with words Damien but so true

[simmo]

Thems fighting words Vern,

Tdi will tow Ok, on the flat , but hilly country will show its weakness. But fit a VNT turbo for about 2 K and it will be OK, especially if the tow is not very heavy. I towed a heavy trailer with a series on it comfortably.

Then there's the 5th gear issue of the R380

In my case when i fit the LT230 Q I'll use 4th gear if the going is tough.

cheers simmo

[cafe latte]

Hmm a few ideas I had not thought of.. I like the Isuzu-powered 110 idea but my thought is most will be getting on in years and be getting tatty by now. My HJ60 is the same, still good but very dated and tired, my thoughts are the Isuzu 100's will be the same. I have not seen one so I might be wrong though.
Power wise I googled the numbers for the Nissan and the 300tdi and the Kw's and torque are about the same so I see the issues the Landy might have towing. All the same I wonder if the Landy's turbo might help it hand on in a gear a bit longer?
Also one issue known with the Nissan is a rather small radiator. I put the biggest I could find in mine and it still gets warm on the hills towing a caravan, how are the 300tdi's in this respect?
Thanks everyone
Chris