Lifted vehicle ban/restriction?

[moorey]

While inquiring about lift kits this morning at my local, I was told that more than 2" has already been banned in WA, and on the way for the rest of us. Anyone heard of this? Sorry if this has been asked before.

[Ace]

I was always led to beleive that aslong as the height of the centre of the headlight is no more than 1200mm off the ground then you are all good. If the height of the headlight is above this you can either re-locate the headlight or drop the suspension. I read this in a letter to 4wd Monthly where someone was asking the same question, and my reply above is the same as 4wd monthly's reply to the letter. This was in the ACT though. Matt

[seqfisho]

I think you will need to have an engineers certificate for anything over 2", so if you want to modify above that then you will need to go to the full engineering certificate procees which can be time and $$$$ consuming.

I must admit that it has taken the transport authorities by suprise the amount of excessively raised vehicles that are running around the roads these days and you have to admit that 4" plus lifts really are a bit suss for safety for normal road use and it does nothing for our image against the do gooders who want 4wds banned and severley limited in their use.

The amount of competetion style bobtail utes I see on the road in Brisbane is increasing and they give far from the right image of most 4 wheelers. I know that many of them have had large amounts of $ and engineering expertise put into them, but you dont see V8 supercars running around the streets (at least not in racing form) they should be left for the competion circuit not daily drivers.

The trend these days seems to be get as much lift as possible and stick as big a rubber as you can buy under the guards then lockers and drive where ever you like, as if that is hard :roll:

Whatever happened to skill and correct wheel placement and actually being able to drive not just steer some 10 foot high monster over things


End of rant :roll: ops: Dont get me started :roll:

[moorey]

Hope my info was wrong, but even an engi-cert will not do the job if this comes in. Total ban, no questions asked...

[landy_man]

I believe the ruling in Vic is anything over 1/3 the original bump stop clearance extra does not meet vicroads vehicle standards

[Slunnie]

seqfisho, perhaps the lift and lockers take the art of driving skill and terrain drivable to a higher level that the 2" lift & moderate tyre specs will give, just as that does to stockers. Some drive or the sheer pleasure of driving and have built trucks to suit. BTW, it depends on how a 4" lift truck is built as whether it is sus or not, and there are a lot that are lifted to that level and still very stable.

Up in QLD they are lucky enough to have some stunning 4WD parks like LCMP that will allow them to use their skill and their built machinery. Seeing it from both sides of the fence.

1/3 is also the rule in NSW.

[dungarover]

Originally posted by Slunnie
seqfisho, perhaps the lift and lockers take the art of driving skill and terrain drivable to a higher level that the 2" lift & moderate tyre specs will give, just as that does to stockers. Some drive or the sheer pleasure of driving and have built trucks to suit. BTW, it depends on how a 4" lift truck is built as whether it is sus or not, and there are a lot that are lifted to that level and still very stable.

Up in QLD they are lucky enough to have some stunning 4WD parks like LCMP that will allow them to use their skill and their built machinery. Seeing it from both sides of the fence.

1/3 is also the rule in NSW.

Well put. it's not rocket science that to go further than a stock Disco/Rangie can do you need traction aids/tyres. But to another point, there's no point on putting lockers on if you only do a bit of beach driving and some dirt road 'touring' you could do on a X-trail or similar.

I've always had the opinion that you set your vehile up to suit your driving requirements, not vice-versa. I was always taught to learn how to drive first than once the 'experience' is there, then add on diff locks, tyres, lift, etc... to go further.

Seqfisho, you are right to an extent. In both the RRC and BLROC I have sen members driver there near stock vehicles over where the more modified vehicles have gone, but at the end of the day ground clerance and diff locks win hands down. I agree that many modded 4WD's are overdone and I can't see the point in an 8 inch lift, mainly becasue it's Illegal and dangerous.

I like to push the limits of my skills and Thomas, sometime sucessful and sometimes not so. I find that most of the club trips too easy for me now, they were good at one stage but I have jumped to another level and I need someting to challenge me [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

Anway, that's my theory. Gone off-topic again ops: ops:

Trav

[discowhite]

by mid next year there should be a NATIONAL set of rules and regs for
ALL modifications, wether it be light or heavy vehicles!
i tried to get a copy of the NSW code of practice for LV mods, but was told that they arnt being sold in any state because of the NATIONAL set
was being drafted!

i dont think there will be a ban on lifts, i think there will be a max and that will be 2". dont know if thats 2'' springs or 1'' springs and 1'' body??

but i do agree that there are some doggie looking rigs out there, pity about the guys that do it by the book!

phil.

[RoverOne]

Originally posted by seqfisho
I think you will need to have an engineers certificate for anything over 2", so if you want to modify above that then you will need to go to the full engineering certificate procees which can be time and $$$$ consuming.

I must admit that it has taken the transport authorities by suprise the amount of excessively raised vehicles that are running around the roads these days and you have to admit that 4" plus lifts really are a bit suss for safety for normal road use and it does nothing for our image against the do gooders who want 4wds banned and severley limited in their use.

The amount of competetion style bobtail utes I see on the road in Brisbane is increasing and they give far from the right image of most 4 wheelers. I know that many of them have had large amounts of $ and engineering expertise put into them, but you dont see V8 supercars running around the streets (at least not in racing form) they should be left for the competion circuit not daily drivers.

The trend these days seems to be get as much lift as possible and stick as big a rubber as you can buy under the guards then lockers and drive where ever you like, as if that is hard :roll:

Whatever happened to skill and correct wheel placement and actually being able to drive not just steer some 10 foot high monster over things


End of rant :roll: ops: Dont get me started :roll:

What a load of crap Glen, you should be able to customise your own vehicle any way your budget allows within the law. As long as it built properly, its no different years ago lowering the car 3" wide 6 1/2" rims (5" was standard), full competition K-Macs, worked 289 in the old XP, some of my others more radical the XP was the first, never killed any body, I got to 57, I'm just smarter than the others that didn't. :wink:

Same difference with 4x4's, I would not personally go to that extreme of a 4" lift but who cares, if we loose the right to drive our 4x4's it won't have anything to do with lift kits.

I also agree with Slunnie BTW. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Those that tend to drive & build Xtreme lifted vehicles do tend to be younger off roaders with a passion to be different to take their vehicle that little bit extra. By the time 2 or three kids come along, a mortgage, & P&C meetings, the more sedate the vehicle appears (but not in all cases), like driving a comfortable Discovery around on weekends for the odd fishing trip. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Cheers mate.

[abaddonxi]

I've been browsing throught the Stuck of the month club back shots.

http://truckworld.tenmagazines.com/tenArti...d=42&cat=6&sc=1

You have to look back a bit for the good ones.

I noticed that most of them have very large tyres and most of them have also been lifted by quite a bit.

How high do you have to go to fit 40" tyres?

Now you could say that those do the work go looking for trouble.











Or you could say something else... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]



Cheers

Simon