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    Negative battery cable size?

    Hi All,

    What is the size (CSA*) of the battery negative cable in a 2013 Puma?

    I want to remove the existing clamp, and ensure that I get the correct lug.

    *cross sectional area, in mm?.

    Thanks!

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    The Negative battery cable utilises a 50-10 cable lug on the chassis end.
    Basically....(Yes, for the pedantics, I realise that there is more to it than that....Ie: difference between nominal and cross sectional area...) that means that the cable is roughly 50mm2, the -10 signifies that the lug has a 10mm hole for bolting through.

    When doing a dual battery install, I upgraded the cable size to 70mm2.
    Your factory cable has a (I guess you could call it a....) Y junction lug on it with one peice attaching to the transfer case and the other end attaching to the chassis.

    I made two cables for my fitment, one Negative to transfer case & one transfer case to chassis.

    Photo attached below...

    Also,
    http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calcula...ss-section.htm

    Mike.
    Last edited by Dopey; 29th December 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Upgraded negative cable...
    Transfer case end at top, chassis end at bottom of the photo.

    Mike.

    Edit.... Somehow my pic has turned on its side....
    Last edited by Dopey; 29th December 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Complete negative battery cable.
    Last edited by Dopey; 29th December 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Good work 90@
    I was going to caution a guess at 35mm2, but having a 50-10 lug on the end is a pretty clear indication.
    PS, how spiteful is that factory lug! The factory copper is stiff as too... makes for a real PITA to get the cable run sitting right.
    With my dual battery install I had considered re-making the factory negative cable but have got it to a workable place at the moment, but still not 100% happy, so will re-do mine at some stage.
    Got any more pics of the cable you made up in 70mm2 ?
    -Mitch
    'El Burro' 2012 Defender 90.

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    Just making up some heavier winch cables now with the same cable that I used for the dual battery system.

    Mike.
    Last edited by Dopey; 29th December 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    70mm2 fire rated cable,
    I would have preferred to use the individually tinned stuff, but the stuff that I ordered hasn't been delivered yet, I need to go bush for a week or two for work and need a winch working and the old winch cables would get too hot....
    So making them out of what I have....

    When I get back from work, (and the other cable gets delivered) I'll redo the battery system and winch with the tinned 70mm2 cable.

    Mike.
    Last edited by Dopey; 29th December 2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Thanks gents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopey View Post
    The Negative battery cable utilises a 50-10 cable lug on the chassis end.
    Basically....(Yes, for the pedantics, I realise that there is more to it than that....Ie: difference between nominal and cross sectional area...) that means that the cable is roughly 50mm2, the -10 signifies that the lug has a 10mm hole for bolting through.

    When doing a dual battery install, I upgraded the cable size to 70mm2.
    Your factory cable has a (I guess you could call it a....) Y junction lug on it with one peice attaching to the transfer case and the other end attaching to the chassis.

    I made two cables for my fitment, one Negative to transfer case & one transfer case to chassis.

    Photo attached below...




    Also,
    Cross-sectional area to diameter conversion circle intersection cross section diameter electric cable conductor formula wire diameter and wiring and calculation cross section AGW American Wire Gauge thick area of a solid wire formula conductivity res

    Mike.

    I want to replace my battery negative cable as that silly cone type screw attaching it to the battery is impossible to get tight and I've had a few cases of not being able to start due to poor connection

    I note that the negative battery cable has two attachments ? one to the chassis and one to the transfer case?.. why is this so ?? I note most generic battery cables I can get don't have that intermediate connection ?.. they just have the battery lug and the end connection

    if I fitted one of these generic cables to the negative terminal and to the transfer case and left out the intermediate connection to the chassis what would I be missing and what would the result be .

    thanks for any insights

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    One is a chassis earth, the other is for the motor, you need both, I've had the one on the transfer case fail and it causes issues.

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