Lead Crystal

[dazzler]

Anyone running with lead crystal?
Any issues?

I am trying to increase my available/usable energy density

Real world Pro's and Con's will be greatly appreciated.

pd

[Milton477]

Some discussion here: LiFePO4 or Lead Crystal to replace AGM?

[dazzler]

Not much info on LC. Whilst LifePo4 sounds fantastic, I am not interesting in making a system change so have my eyes on a 110AH @C20 LC so feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[drivesafe]

Hi dazzler, I have been carrying out quite a few tests on a number of different sizes of Lead Crystal batteries for over 18 months now and the more I test and thrash these batteries, the more impressed I become.

I have just signed a new Sellers contract with Betta Batteries and can supply them to you if you go that way.

So ask any questions you have and I will do my best to give you answers.

Can I start by asking you a few questions.

How are you intending to use them and where are you going to be mounting them?

[Robmacca]

Hi dazzler, I have been carrying out quite a few tests on a number of different sizes of Lead Crystal batteries for over 18 months now and the more I test and thrash these batteries, the more impressed I become.

I have just signed a new Sellers contract with Betta Batteries and can supply them to you if you go that way.

So ask any questions you have and I will do my best to give you answers.

Can I start by asking you a few questions.

How are you intending to use them and where are you going to be mounting them?

Do they need a certain size Charger to charge these batteries. It was quoted to me that u need at least a charger that is 30% the size of the battery u have?

[dazzler]

Hi dazzler, I have been carrying out quite a few tests on a number of different sizes of Lead Crystal batteries for over 18 months now and the more I test and thrash these batteries, the more impressed I become.

I have just signed a new Sellers contract with Betta Batteries and can supply them to you if you go that way.

So ask any questions you have and I will do my best to give you answers.

Can I start by asking you a few questions.

How are you intending to use them and where are you going to be mounting them?

I am going to swap my starter with an AGM 110 that I have and use a 110 LC for all my aux. My thinking is it will give me similar capacity to 2 x 110 AGM in half the footprint. I have a CTEK D250sa + smartpass setup also.

Both batteries will coexist in the 110 battery box.

Thanks Tim,

PS: My flickering Headlight/driving light after your kit install was due bad earthing, all the lights worked initially for half hour then started flickering. Have run an earth cable all the way to earthing point near the battery and all seems to be good.

[drivesafe]

Hi Rob and you can use any size charger you have or want to have.

I have been experimenting with a range of charger sizes and like any lead acid battery, Lead Crystal batteries charge better with smaller current chargers, but I have used a 60 amp battery charger to charge a flat ( discharged down to 10.5v - 0% SoC ) 70Ah Lead Crystal battery and other than it getting warm, not hot, just warm, it charged without a problem.

I have also charged the same battery with a 2 amp charger and while it took days to charge, the battery ended up in a higher state of charge ( greater capacity ) than was achieved with the 60 amp charger.

[drivesafe]

I am going to swap my starter with an AGM 110 that I have and use a 110 LC for all my aux. My thinking is it will give me similar capacity to 2 x 110 AGM in half the footprint. I have a CTEK D250sa + smartpass setup also.

Both batteries will coexist in the 110 battery box.

Honestly dazzler, the CTEK is a waste of space. Flog it off on flea bay and put the money in your pocket.

As with ALL Land Rovers, they will charge batteries better than an DC/DC device can and usually do it quicker.

Having the CTEK D250 and the Smart-Pass simply means your batteries can be charged as quick as if you charged direct from your alternator. So again, they are just a waste of space with no gain.

[dazzler]

Honestly dazzler, the CTEK is a waste of space. Flog it off on flea bay and put the money in your pocket.

As with ALL Land Rovers, they will charge batteries better than an DC/DC device can and usually do it quicker.

Having the CTEK D250 and the Smart-Pass simply means your batteries can be charged as quick as if you charged direct from your alternator. So again, they are just a waste of space with no gain.

So what is my option around dual battery charger with solar then? I was under the impression the smatpass would compliment the higher charge rate of the LC, no?

[drivesafe]

Dazzler, if you have an electric winch, I would fit Optima Yellowtops.

Someone can correct me here, but I think you can fit 3 x Optima D34 batteries under the seat.

If so, this would give you the optimum setup.