Puma clutch bleed nipple confusion

[steveG]

I’ve got the new clutch fitted in my daughters 2007 Puma, and trying to bleed it.

Can anyone confirm what position is “open” as I don’t seem to be getting anything through regardless of where I turn it to.
It only turns 180deg, and I’ve tried at both ends of that travel and also at the mid point.

I’ve tried both pedal bleeding and vacuum bleed connected to the nipple. Plenty of free play at the master.

Steve

[steveG]

Of course 2 mins after I post the question it started to bleed.

Looking from the outboard end of the nipple towards the bell housing - OPEN is fully anticlockwise.
CLOSED is fully clockwise.

Steve

[DazzaTD5]

Of course 2 mins after I post the question it started to bleed.

Looking from the outboard end of the nipple towards the bell housing - OPEN is fully anticlockwise.
CLOSED is fully clockwise.

Steve

Correct, also in the closed position there are 2 marks that line up.
The easiest way of bleeding them is once you have connected a plastic hose down into a small plastic bleed bottle, open the valve and finish off putting the floor covering in, keep it topped up eventually it will gravity feed. Then do 2 three quarter pumps, check/top up level, 2 three quarter pumps, repeat until you have flushed clean fluid through the hydraulics.

They really are one of the easiest systems to bleed.

[Tins]

They really are one of the easiest systems to bleed.

Can I fit it to my R380??

[DazzaTD5]

Can I fit it to my R380??

yes, fit a mt82 gearbox

[Tins]

yes, fit a mt82 gearbox

Knew it would be a doddle.

[steveG]

Correct, also in the closed position there are 2 marks that line up.
The easiest way of bleeding them is once you have connected a plastic hose down into a small plastic bleed bottle, open the valve and finish off putting the floor covering in, keep it topped up eventually it will gravity feed. Then do 2 three quarter pumps, check/top up level, 2 three quarter pumps, repeat until you have flushed clean fluid through the hydraulics.

They really are one of the easiest systems to bleed.

Thanks Daz - I’ll give that method a go tomorrow as after trying both pedal and vacuum bleeding I still can’t get the clutch to release completely.

Steve

[POD]

I had success by reverse bleeding, injecting fluid from beneath via a 50ml syringe, sucking it out of the master cyl when full and recirculating several times via a system of IV valves that enable disconnecting and reconnecting a syringe without injecting air. I have always had success gravity bleeding clutches before but this thing was a complete pig until I tried the above.

[steveG]

Did you have the same symptoms - pedal felt OK but just not completely releasing the clutch?
I had the horrible thought last night that I may have had a brain fart and put the friction plate on the wrong way around causing it to bind on the flywheel.
Not sure if it’s even possible on these things, pretty confident I didn’t, but no way to check without removing the gearbox again…

Steve

[scarry]

Can I fit it to my R380??

At least with the R380,the slave cylinder is reasonably easily replaced,unlike the Puma.....