Is there going to be a new 90?

[smac]

hi,

just wondering if people think there will be a new 90 coming out?

cheers,
Smac

[spudboy]

Nope - not according to the Adelaide dealer.

[JDNSW]

Have a look at the threads about the 2007 Defender - several people have been told that the 90 will not appear in Australia. Of course if they get enough enquiries about them, this could possibly change. However, it is noticeable that sales of the SWB Landrover started to decline in the seventies, if not before, and when the 110 was introduced here to replace the Series 3, the 90 was not, and in fact it was not introduced until about five or six years ago, and was discontinued (allegedly because of poor sales) after a couple of years.

There may be all sorts of reasons why it has not been a success here, but the fact is that other four wheel drive manufacturers have had similar problems selling their short wheelbase versions. One problem, I think, is that ADRs now require three point belts in all front seats, and appear to prohibit side facing seats - which effectively makes the 90 a two seater, which most people are not happy with. But even apart from this, Australians have, over the last thirty years, overwhelmingly preferred the long wheelbase four wheel drives - probably because of all the junk we think we need when we travel! (In the '60s I was able to fit all I needed in an 88, including four jerricans of petrol and six of water to go into the Simpson - and roads are a lot better and communications are better and the amount of traffic is a lot higher now. Today I manage to fill the 110 for a trip to Perth, almost all on good roads!)

John

[discowhite]

Have a look at the threads about the 2007 Defender - several people have been told that the 90 will not appear in Australia. Of course if they get enough enquiries about them, this could possibly change. However, it is noticeable that sales of the SWB Landrover started to decline in the seventies, if not before, and when the 110 was introduced here to replace the Series 3, the 90 was not, and in fact it was not introduced until about five or six years ago, and was discontinued (allegedly because of poor sales) after a couple of years.

There may be all sorts of reasons why it has not been a success here, but the fact is that other four wheel drive manufacturers have had similar problems selling their short wheelbase versions. One problem, I think, is that ADRs now require three point belts in all front seats, and appear to prohibit side facing seats - which effectively makes the 90 a two seater, which most people are not happy with. But even apart from this, Australians have, over the last thirty years, overwhelmingly preferred the long wheelbase four wheel drives - probably because of all the junk we think we need when we travel! (In the '60s I was able to fit all I needed in an 88, including four jerricans of petrol and six of water to go into the Simpson - and roads are a lot better and communications are better and the amount of traffic is a lot higher now. Today I manage to fill the 110 for a trip to Perth, almost all on good roads!)

John

the 07 90 has 4 forward facing seats and 3point seatbelts on ALL 4 seats.


landrover would bennifit from bringing the 07 90 out here because of that!

cheers phil

[Scouse]

I've been told that the 90 now comes under the weight limit to be classified as a commercial vehicle (which the 110 is classed as).
As such, it needs to meet stricter safety regulations which are near impossible to meet (& would be expensive too).

[andrew e]

the 07 90 has 4 forward facing seats and 3point seatbelts on ALL 4 seats.


landrover would bennifit from bringing the 07 90 out here because of that!

cheers phil

I was just reading examor trim (uk) sold these with child safety points. This may be a way to get a foward facing rear seat in a 2 door 110 hardtop

[JDNSW]

I was just reading examor trim (uk) sold these with child safety points. This may be a way to get a foward facing rear seat in a 2 door 110 hardtop

Unfortunately I think you will find that UK child safety points do not meet ADRs - and even if they do it will be difficult to prove they do. The Australian standard is, I believe, unique.

John

[LRHybrid100]

I've been told that the 90 now comes under the weight limit to be classified as a commercial vehicle (which the 110 is classed as).
As such, it needs to meet stricter safety regulations which are near impossible to meet (& would be expensive too).

maybe they should put factory sliders and full roll cage to get the weight back up???

LRH

[dullbird]

Unfortunately I think you will find that UK child safety points do not meet ADRs - and even if they do it will be difficult to prove they do. The Australian standard is, I believe, unique.

John

interesting i thought saftey standards where more stringant in europe than any where else in the world...........

[JDNSW]

interesting i thought saftey standards where more stringant in europe than any where else in the world...........

I don't know that Australian standards are more or less stringent - just different.

And for child seats, Australia required special anchorages long before anywhere else did, and this meant the specifications as to position cannot be easily changed, as there is a whole industry grown up supplying seats etc to match them. When other jurisdictions started similar anchorages, they did not necessarily follow the Australian specifications, particularly as car design had moved on.

John