101 Axles

[101RRS]

I understand that the axles in a 101 are unique to the 101. So are the axles 10 spline or 24 spline - I assume 10. Most things are beefed up on the 101, are the axles beefed up as well or can I expect the usual landy failures - what about fitting lockers - will the standard axles survive.

Questions, questions, questions

Oh one more - is there a gracious way of exiting the front of a 101 - I haven't quite mastered it - and the pics my family have taken of me getting out are not a pretty sight - and not for publication.

Thanks

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I understand that the axles in a 101 are unique to the 101. So are the axles 10 spline or 24 spline - I assume 10. Most things are beefed up on the 101, are the axles beefed up as well or can I expect the usual landy failures - what about fitting lockers - will the standard axles survive.

Questions, questions, questions

Oh one more - is there a gracious way of exiting the front of a 101 - I haven't quite mastered it - and the pics my family have taken of me getting out are not a pretty sight - and not for publication.

Thanks

Garry

Garry

I was under the impression that all the Salisbury axles were 24 spline, but Ron, Slugbait or the other 101 owners will have to confirm the facts.

If you are concerned and the axles, CV and flanges are the standard Rover/Salisbury splines, Hi-Tough Engineering should be able to make you some specials. They (maxi-Drive) made up a pair of rears and some hybrid fronts and they were only about $600 per pair and that was with Mal having to make a special boach to cut the ENV splines. Yours should be cheaper as they shouldn't have to cut the splines

Diana

[Rangier Rover]

Oh one more - is there a gracious way of exiting the front of a 101 - I haven't quite mastered it - and the pics my family have taken of me getting out are not a pretty sight - and not for publication.

Thanks

Garry[/QUOTE] Fit a parachute before exiting 101

[cmurray]

I was under the impression that all the Salisbury axles were 24 spline, but Ron, Slugbait or the other 101 owners will have to confirm the facts.

I think they are 1.5" 30 spline axles and the CV's are larger and stronger than the AEU2522 CV's fitted to Land Rover 90's, 110's and 127's.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I think they are 1.5" 30 spline axles and the CV's are larger and stronger than the AEU2522 CV's fitted to Land Rover 90's, 110's and 127's.

Craig

It is interesting to know that the 101s are orphans in the salisbury and CV perspective. However if they are a weak point in the 101 then having Hi-Tough make up specials could be a good thing as the halfshafts made with Hi-Tough are significantly stronger than the original Rover items.

With my S2B I had to supply them with a side gear for the ENV diff to make up the broach to cut the splines, some S2a F/C halfshafts and the halfshaft dimensions for the S2b halfshafts . They already had broaches to cut the 24 spline flanges and the Stage 1 CVs I am using in the front. Now they can make specials for any Land Rover ENV diff in both the S2a and S2b forward controls and 1 tons.

It would be the same with the 101 - once they have the broachs and the dimensions of the halfshafts they can make them to order when required (usually make 2 of each - 1 for the customer and 1 for stock). Ideally they would need to have original halfshafts, a side gear and CV so they can check everything is O.K. They can cut halfshafts up to 80mm which is the largest diameter Hi-Tough stock they have.

Diana

[101RRS]

Hi Diana and others - thanks for the comments - I am not worried about the strength of the axles etc - indeed I had heard the opposite. However I am still learning about the truck and I guess forewarned is forearmed. I have busted axles on just about every landie I have owned and most were not working hard at the time.

I am interested in putting in a diff lock later and curious to find out if it might cause an issue.

Also loosing a few kgs might help in getting out of the truck as well.

Garry

[cmurray]

Craig
It is interesting to know that the 101s are orphans in the salisbury and CV perspective. However if they are a weak point in the 101 then having Hi-Tough make up specials could be a good thing as the halfshafts made with Hi-Tough are significantly stronger than the original Rover items.

As far as I am aware, the 101 axles are the strongest ones Land Rover ever made, and since they were made back in the 70's before Land Rover started making axles out of licorice, strength shouldn't be an issue. I know MacNamara Diffs have made quite a few difflocks for 101's and I believe they just use the standard axles as they are up to the task.

From memory the 101's also have a 5.7:1 crown wheel and pinion, which basically makes the whole axle assembly different, as the track is also about a foot wider than a standard Land Rover.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

As far as I am aware, the 101 axles are the strongest ones Land Rover ever made, and since they were made back in the 70's before Land Rover started making axles out of licorice, strength shouldn't be an issue. I know MacNamara Diffs have made quite a few difflocks for 101's and I believe they just use the standard axles as they are up to the task.

From memory the 101's also have a 5.7:1 crown wheel and pinion, which basically makes the whole axle assembly different, as the track is also about a foot wider than a standard Land Rover.

Craig

You may be correct about the 101 axles being strong, but having broken axles on standard Series II and Series IIa Land Rovers built in the 1960's and 1970's I can assure that Rover did make axles out of licorice like substances as early as 1960.

It was Garry who suggested that the 101 axles are weak.

Diana

[101RRS]

It was Garry who suggested that the 101 axles are weak.

Diana

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I do but honour thee!

Diana

Addit: I must have read into your comment about the usual Land Rover failures being related to weak axles - which is a usual land rover failure!