Tyre rotation

[WhiteD3]

A mate of mine has just replaced his D3's Wranglers after noticing the steel belt showing through on the inside 50mm of one rear tyre with the other almost the same. He'd got 38,000k from them so he wasn't too put off.

Begs the question though of regular wheel alignment and tyre rotation. Spoke to LR and they said that yes, the D3 will wear on the inside of all four tyres and that regular alignment and rotation was good practice.

Thoughts?
How regular?

I have 25,000 on my Wranglers and I can see that the rears are slightly more worn on the inside.

Cheers.

[100I]

Rotations won't stop the wear, what it will do is share it around & draw attention to a problem.
Would be interesting to see alignment specs, considering yours is on air too. With coil sprung IRS you could be a little more understanding.

[Utemad]

If it wears the inside of all 4 tyres then rotating them won't do any good as the inside will always be the inside.
Unless you turn the tyres around on the rims.

Interesting though as my Disco1 (totally different suspension of course) says to never rotate the tyres. Suits me as I'm a lazy bugger. Although my tyres are wearing even all round.

[300+]

There is a TSB for poor alignment which causes this symptom. My car is suffering and has worn the rear tyres to replacement levels in 19K. Much more wear and they will be illegal. Still working with Austral to get them to acknowledge that my VIN is within the effected range, my symptoms match the problem exactly and my tyres are trashed.

So far all they are telling me is that I can't ever expect more than 20K out of a set of 4 tyres with this vehicle and that my alignment problems are self inflicted due to poor road surfaces. The tyres are worm because I didn't correct teh alignment problem sooner. It has been Austral serviced since new, but apparently they are not responsible for telling me that I needed an alignment at the previous services.

Steve

[WhiteD3]

Steve, that's rubbish from Austral. I've done 25k and think I'll get at least another 10-15k. This mate of mine did 38k and would have done 50 without the inside scrubbing.

[CaverD3]

The wear is due to a bush settle issue. all wheels can go out. They do eventually settle and do not go out as easily.
LR now say to do four wheel alignment at each service. If you have had yours serviced at a dealers and they didn't do this you have a case. They contributed to tyre replacement on early models but have tightened up since.


New TSB issued yesterday - LA204-008 Discovery 3/LR3 - Uneven Tire Wear (unfortunately LRs US masters seems to have influenced the spelling of tyre) Vin range: 5A300259-6A403382

Summary:

A customer may report a concern of uneven tire wear.

Cause: Certain vehicles may experience a degree of 'bush settle' after the initial geometry setting following production (this has now been compensated for using calculated geometry settings introduced from the VIN above). This 'bush settle' may change the geometry settings to outside of normal tolerance and may increase tire wear. This issue is not experienced on all vehicles and the toe sensitivity may be attributed to other factors.

Action: Should it become necessary to adjust vehicle geometry due to specific complaints of tire wear, it should be set to the dimensions detailed in this bulletin. For all other cases requiring geometry setting, the dimensions in the workshop manual should be used.

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Rear tyre wear TSB

[geoffo]

my last td5 had done 93000k before i replaced the michelins (probably still had 20000+ in them). Is 40000ks all we get from the new tyres.

[WhiteD3]

The wear is due to a bush settle issue. all wheels can go out. They do eventually settle and do not go out as easily.
LR now say to do four wheel alignment at each service. If you have had yours serviced at a dealers and they didn't do this you have a case. They contributed to tyre replacement on early models but have tightened up since.


New TSB issued yesterday - LA204-008 Discovery 3/LR3 - Uneven Tire Wear (unfortunately LRs US masters seems to have influenced the spelling of tyre) Vin range: 5A300259-6A403382

Summary:

A customer may report a concern of uneven tire wear.

Cause: Certain vehicles may experience a degree of 'bush settle' after the initial geometry setting following production (this has now been compensated for using calculated geometry settings introduced from the VIN above). This 'bush settle' may change the geometry settings to outside of normal tolerance and may increase tire wear. This issue is not experienced on all vehicles and the toe sensitivity may be attributed to other factors.

Action: Should it become necessary to adjust vehicle geometry due to specific complaints of tire wear, it should be set to the dimensions detailed in this bulletin. For all other cases requiring geometry setting, the dimensions in the workshop manual should be used.

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Rear tyre wear TSB

Thanks. I'll "mention" this to LR tomorrow and see what they say.

[discomaniac]

my last td5 had done 93000k before i replaced the michelins (probably still had 20000+ in them). Is 40000ks all we get from the new tyres.

You better believe it
I got 98000km out of my Michelins on by D2 TD5.
Went through 2 sets of Wranglers in first 63000km on the D3. Now got General Grabbers AT2 with about 25000km on them, still look to have over half the tread left.

Discomaniac

[Disco3]

Thanks. I'll "mention" this to LR tomorrow and see what they say.

hey I'd be really interested to read how you got on with LR as I have the same problem - and my VIN is in the range.