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    80'' Doors

    Can someone out there post a picture of an 80" door, specifically the inside of the whole door. I have a couple of awful ones and am interested in whether they have been modified or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    Can someone out there post a picture of an 80" door, specifically the inside of the whole door. I have a couple of awful ones and am interested in whether they have been modified or not.

    Cheers.
    Or you can post a pic and we'll tell you if they have been modified or not.

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    Hi, hope these help, to the best of my little knowledge these are unmolested, the one with the door top on is the inside handle type, the other one (no door top) is the handle inside and out, you can see the dingo looking thing in the back ground of one of the photos as well. cheers. Anthony.
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    Numpty

    The pics Anthony has posted look very unmolested (thanks Tony, didn't have any pics to post myself).

    Going by the door tops and the reinforcing bracket those may be 1952/53 doors. On the inside they look pretty much the same as your 1950 model except the later doors have the handle and hole on the outside.

    Another difference you may be unaware of is that the reinforcing bracket above the door lock on 1949 and 1950 models is galvanised where on the later cars it is painted "black steel" (the colour being green*).

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    * is that confusing or what?

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    Thanks Tony. (and Diana) They will do nicely. It would seem that the rough doors I have are probably unmolested........... just buggered. Although nothing is completely unsalvageable.

    I will post a pic of them possibly tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    .... Although nothing is completely unsalvageable.

    I will post a pic of them possibly tomorrow.
    What has been made by man can be re-made by man!

    You can do wonders with a TIG welder (you but not me what I do with a welder is not called welding ). If you do do repairs yourself, make sure you reinforce the lock bracket well that is the place they fail first.

    There are some people who do very good replicas here in Au, but not quick and about $250 each last time I heard. Yes I have 3 replacements for my '51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
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    Another difference you may be unaware of is that the reinforcing bracket above the door lock on 1949 and 1950 models is galvanised where on the later cars it is painted "black steel" (the colour being green*).

    Diana

    * is that confusing or what?
    According to a 1958 Autopress Landrover Workshop Manual I have, that bracket was not factory fitted to "early" Landrovers, and they give instructions for fitting it. So the finish may not be diagnostic. (I was looking in it for a picture to post but Anthony posted a better one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    According to a 1958 Autopress Landrover Workshop Manual I have, that bracket was not factory fitted to "early" Landrovers, and they give instructions for fitting it. So the finish may not be diagnostic. (I was looking in it for a picture to post but Anthony posted a better one)

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    That is correct and you will notice that my post mentions 1949 and 1950 for the galvanised bracket. The gusset was not fitted to the very early cars, read 1948.

    You will also notice a difference in the brackets, where the early ones have a bracket welded to the head of the bolt that clamps the door top tube, to stop it spinning behind the gusset. The later ones have a slot where you push a spanner to stop the head of a regular set bolt turning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus View Post
    These are the doors we have...as you see in "not so good" condition
    Have seen very much worse condition and yours have had very little in the way of repair which makes your start point a lot easier.

    They all go that way around the door lock and they all crack at the corners where you have 1 with a bracket.

    You have a number of options, but remembering that very few 80" doors will be much better than those you already have.
    1. You can spend a lot of money and get some made by someone who makes replicas around $500 + shipping for a pair.
    2. You can have some made locally by getting the aluminium folded up and spot welded.
    3. You can fit brackets over the corners and a reinforcing bracket over the lock mounting.
    4. You can disassemble the door and replace the internal brackets and missing/broken lock mount. You then need to re-assemble the door using either pop rivets or having someone TIG weld it back together then linish off the welds (You can have little welds done by a TIG that when you smoothe off the back they look very like spot welds)


    How pedantic do you really want to be?

    I chose the replica route, and now I want a replica tub as well - next it will be replica inner guards (I already have the replica outers)

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    That's the thing, eventually it ends up a replica (almost). Ours requires the whole body, although as you say, anything is rebuildable. It does have a near perfect chassis and bulkhead, which is a good starting point, although I'm not so sure I need the bother and maybe should concentrate on Leon (leave mostly as is), Thomas--replace chassis and bulkhead and of course change everything else over, and Castrol, which we want to get on the road for Corowa next March

    Sigh, the trials of a would be fleet owner
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    Thomas - 1955 Series 1 107" Truck Cab
    Leon - 1957 Series 1 88" Soft Top
    Lewis - 1963 Series 11A ex Mil Gunbuggy
    Teddy5 - 2001 Ex Telstra Big Cab Td5
    ​Betsy - 1963 Series 11A ex Mil GS
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