V8 powered 2a shortie

[Richard O]

I have a couple of holden 186 converted 2a's. I dont intent restoring them but have a question re conversion assy.

1. Will a holden V8 250 connect up with this type of conversion?.

2. If I was to v8 power a shortie, what would I need to do re drive train?

Cheers

Richard

[Blknight.aus]

retro fit a sals to the rear, minimum.

disc brakes

If you really want a v8 shorty go rat a disco and drop its hardware in.

[Richard O]

Would I have to do anything to Chassis, If I was to create say a Burnout / summernats type car? Was talking to mate today, came up with a bit of an idea...... a shortie, stock/service looking, that would be a sleeper but would be a bit of an animal.. He has a small block chev if i am keen... Cheers Richard

[Blknight.aus]

well spring leafs tend to axle hop too much for great burnouts but no, if you wanted to make a sleeper burnout car Id just drop in a beam axle with an LSD ford 9 inch ditch the original engine and trans, add the V8 pushing one of the ZF autos.

Of course doing it so its street legal is going to be a lot more involved than that.


have you been watching Armygeddon re-runs?

and on the edit that would be a direct drive ZF not through a tcase so youd only be rear wheel drive.

[Slunnie]

Its not that easy.

If you fit a Sals you wont fit the rear prop

If you fit a V8 Rover drivetrain either you wont have a rear tailshaft and will be cutting the body lots or you will not be able to run the OE fascia and you will be cutting and remaking a lot of Xmembers

If you fit the V8 and run the Series gearbox you will break it.

There is no good solution to this that I know of.

There is an example of one that has worked, but it is a 100" wheel base of series body on rangie chassis and drivetrain, but note the radiator has been relocated to under the bonnet with thermofans and a cut bonnet.

If you're serious about getting good V8 power under a series, you should also consider a LWB, these are much easier to do than a SWB.

[Slunnie]

well spring leafs tend to axle hop too much for great burnouts but no, if you wanted to make a sleeper burnout car Id just drop in a beam axle with an LSD ford 9 inch ditch the original engine and trans, add the V8 pushing one of the ZF autos.

Of course doing it so its street legal is going to be a lot more involved than that.


have you been watching Armygeddon re-runs?

You can fix the leaf probs with an anti-wrap bar - this is fairly standard practice in modded 4WD's.

I would also look at Toyota LC60 axles rather than Ford 9" gear. The Toy stuff is cheaper, still strong enough, aligns with the driveline and is an easy fit. I would also say that most wouldn't even notice they were Toy axles looking from the front/rear.

[Blknight.aus]

early ford 9 inch once you take the 5 point watts linkage off of it looks near enough to a rover diff from the rear.

Its bad enough having to admit to putting ford gear into a landy (at least at one stage they owned the company) but toyota stuff?




thats just wrong.

[Slunnie]

There is no difference between putting Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Maxidrive, Lovells, EBC, Mobil, Bilstein etc products onto the car. All of the hype is based on emotion and not logic - to make it perform you've got to use the right parts. There are a heap of similarities between Toyota parts and LandRover parts, except Toyota generally designed and manufactured the parts better. A LandCruiser 60 front axle isn't far off drop in - perchs are within about 15mm, pinion lengths match etc. The rear requires a minor amount of fabrication but is heaps stronger, correct offset on the diff etc. The Toyota axles are easy to match up front to rear as the 6 tud pattern is common.

[Richard O]

Dave, What is a beam axel? Thinking of doing a gunbuggy (mock) Cheers Richard

[Blknight.aus]

a beam axle is what you get in a series/county/deefer/disco1 think non independant and youve got it nailed.