Help with VINs

[Jock The Rock]

Gday

Im in the process of checking out a Series I

They owner has given me these numbers:

TARE: 1750

Vin: 12307011

Engine number: 111714672

When I put the VIN in either of these websites Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands or Classic Land Rovers

One gives me this info (it won't recognise the VIN but it will recognise the Engine number)

Type: Land Rover
Model: Land Rover, Series I
Body type: Basic
Wheel base: 88in (Short Wheel Base, SWB )
Engine: Petrol
Destination: Right-hand drive (RHD), home market
Model year: 1957
14672 Serial number

The other (it won't recognise the VIN but it will recognise the Engine number)

VIN number : 111714672.

Land Rover series 1 88"

Model 111 Land Rover series 1 88"
Body style Basic
Engine Type 2.0l (1997cc) petrol
Market, steering Home market, RHD
Model year 7 1957
Serial Number 14672

Just wondering what the story is?

Has she given me the wrong numbers?

This is the Landy

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Thanks for you help

[dandlandyman]

Usually, the first four digits of Series 1 chassis numbers give you the year, wheelbase and engine, while the last five are the serial number. I had a go with 1230..... series random serial number and came up with a 1960 109 Series 1, which is a sheer impossibility. Somewhere along the way, you've lost a digit from your chassis number. Without my library of LRE mags to hand I can't tell you what it may be, but from the pics I can see it's a LWB Series 1, most likely a 109.

The engine number works as a swb chassis number because all rhd S1 engines were numbered with the same sequences, regardless of where it was destined (home market, export or CKD). Only LHD engines were numbered differently. I'll see what I can find out tonight in my "archives" for you...

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

[Jock The Rock]

Usually, the first four digits of Series 1 chassis numbers give you the year, wheelbase and engine, while the last five are the serial number. I had a go with 1230..... series random serial number and came up with a 1960 109 Series 1, which is a sheer impossibility. Somewhere along the way, you've lost a digit from your chassis number. Without my library of LRE mags to hand I can't tell you what it may be, but from the pics I can see it's a LWB Series 1, most likely a 109.

The engine number works as a swb chassis number because all rhd S1 engines were numbered with the same sequences, regardless of where it was destined (home market, export or CKD). Only LHD engines were numbered differently. I'll see what I can find out tonight in my "archives" for you...

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 74 3 109" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

Mate that would be great

For some reason I thought the Series I LWB was a 107" am I wrong?

[Lost Landy]

G,day going by the radiator front panel and the wing steady bolt is futher from the wheel arch corner, plus it looks like it still has the fully floating rear hubs makes me think that it is a 109" and not a 107" series 1.

[Jock The Rock]

Some more numbers these were taken off the rego sticker

Tare 1750

Vin: 12307011

En: 111714672

S/N: 8910180 “G”

Could someone let me know where under the bonnet the chassis bumber can be found or is that already there in the form of the S/N?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

A couple of comments VIN's didn't come in until the 1980's.

A series 1 has a "car number" or "chassis number".

You are missing one numeral from your chassis number. I am assuming that it is the fourth digit and also that it is a "6" making:

VIN number : 123607011.

Land Rover series 1 109"

Model 123 Land Rover series 1 109"
Body style Basic
Engine Type 2.0l (1997cc) petrol
Market, steering CKD (Export), RHD
Model year 6 1956
Serial Number 07011

Although it could be a "7" or "8" for a 1957 or 1958 model.

Check out the bolt holding the side of the front mudguard behind the wheel arch if it is about 3" back from the wheel arch then it is a 109".

Diana

<snip> Could someone let me know where under the bonnet the chassis bumber can be found or is that already there in the form of the S/N?

On CKD vehicles the chassis number is usually stamped on the outside LHS rear spring shackle chassis bracket. You will probably need a wire brush to find it.

For UK assembled vehicles the chassis number is usually on the outside of the RHS front spring hanger chassis bracket.

On some vehicles, particularly those built by Annand & Thompson in Brisbane, the number is on the flat top of the LHS chassis side rail between the engine mount and the radiator.

Diana

[Sleepy]

I would agree with Diana, Jock (Be a brave man not to)

I reckon there is a 7 missing.

Here's a snip from my workshop manual:

Engine number series in the right column .

[101RRS]

The front of that landie (radiator panel/guards) is the same as a series 1 88. So it is most likely a 109 and either 1957 or 1958.

Garry

[Jock The Rock]

Thanks for the replies

I might just assume the chassis number at this stage, I did ask her but she hasn't got back to me yet

Ill let you know how I go

[olmate]

Speaking of VINs (and in line with this thread); does anyone know where you can get replacement / replica plates made?