Range Rover Classic Wheels on a Series 1

[101RRS]

I quite like the look of the old Range Rover classic wheels on a series 1. IMHO is replaces the plain jane standard wheels with something that looks a little smarter but not over the top.

I have read comments that the centre hole on the wheels will not fit over the series 1 hub and that the hole needs to be made a little larger as well there are issues with the 6" rims vs the narrower standard rims and turning clearance issue - however I had 7" sunraysias on my first series 1 and there were no real issues.

Anyway managed to get four RRC rims and tried one on the series 1 this morning - went on no issues with plenty of clearance so it would seem that nothing needs to be modified.

Am I missing something here?



Garry

[WedWon]

Am I missing something here?

Just the tyre!!

[Scallops]

Personally, I much prefer the original style steel wheels on a S1 - but each to their own. It's all about setting the vehicle up so you're happy with it.

Can you still engage/disengage the free hub?

[101RRS]

Can you still engage/disengage the free hub?

No free wheeling hubs .

Garry

[Jim621]

Well since you are running a smaller width rim you would have to run a thinner tyre too.

Im not 100% sure on rovers but - The centre hole of the hub is meant to locate and support the wheel - so it should be a snug fit. The wheel studs arent meant to hold the weight of the car.

Steve

[bobslandies]

I quite like the look of the old Range Rover classic wheels on a series 1. IMHO is replaces the plain jane standard wheels with something that looks a little smarter but not over the top.

I have read comments that the centre hole on the wheels will not fit over the series 1 hub and that the hole needs to be made a little larger as well there are issues with the 6" rims vs the narrower standard rims and turning clearance issue - however I had 7" sunraysias on my first series 1 and there were no real issues.

Anyway managed to get four RRC rims and tried one on the series 1 this morning - went on no issues with plenty of clearance so it would seem that nothing needs to be modified.

Am I missing something here?



Garry

Garry,

You don't have to modify anything if you have the original star shape drive flanges (not the later Series 2A/3 round ones) the Rostyle wheels will go straight on as you have found.

As the mounting holes are slightly larger (meant for the 16mm studs) it would be a good idea to look around for a pile of the late 2A 9/16"BSF large size wheel nuts. These will give the best clamping effort into the wheel cones. All Range Rover and Series 3 wheel nuts are 16mm thread - so no good!! The later BSF nuts however use the RR and Series 3 size wheelbrace 27mm.

Similarly there is no problem with the turning circle (unless you want to fit 7.50x16 tyres) as the Range Rover wheels will effectively increase the track by over 1/2" per side, the inner clearance by a bit less than that and the outside edge of your 206R16 RR tyre will be about 3/4" further out than a standard 6.00x16 or similar tyre on an original 231601 rim. Also makes a good sand setup with a not so aggressive tread.

Not so easy to fit on a 2A as the centre needs machining out - don't like the idea of doing that although it has been done.

And they do look quite "retro"!

Bob

[101RRS]

Thanks Bob - that is great information. Yes the stud holes are a little bigger on the RR wheels than on the standard wheels and I was going to have a look for different studs but you have given me the answer.

The point that land rover wheels are supported by the hub and not the wheel studs has been raised many times before and I certainly always believed it - however on the 101, the hole in the wheel centre is actually slightly larger than the hub so that when the wheel nuts are tightened up the wheel is actually supported by the wheel nuts and I suspect the case for many other model landies - however having said that my alloy wheels on my old Disco 1 were certainly hub centred as they were difficult to get off when they had been on for a while.

I raise this now as the rear axle on the series 1 is as standard with no substantial protruding hub so the rear with the RRC wheels may have to be supported by the wheel studs (in fact by the nuts). The inside shape of the RRC wheels means it might miss the locating ring on the rear hubs - but I havn't tried it yet to see.

I cannot see this being an issue but am open to informed comment.

Garry

[Banjo_pluker]

I quite like the look of the old Range Rover classic wheels on a series 1. IMHO is replaces the plain jane standard wheels with something that looks a little smarter but not over the top.

I have read comments that the centre hole on the wheels will not fit over the series 1 hub and that the hole needs to be made a little larger as well there are issues with the 6" rims vs the narrower standard rims and turning clearance issue - however I had 7" sunraysias on my first series 1 and there were no real issues.

Anyway managed to get four RRC rims and tried one on the series 1 this morning - went on no issues with plenty of clearance so it would seem that nothing needs to be modified.

Am I missing something here?





Garry

only a few wheel nuts and some rubber

[JDNSW]

Thanks Bob - that is great information. Yes the stud holes are a little bigger on the RR wheels than on the standard wheels and I was going to have a look for different studs but you have given me the answer.

The point that land rover wheels are supported by the hub and not the wheel studs has been raised many times before and I certainly always believed it - however on the 101, the hole in the wheel centre is actually slightly larger than the hub so that when the wheel nuts are tightened up the wheel is actually supported by the wheel nuts and I suspect the case for many other model landies - however having said that my alloy wheels on my old Disco 1 were certainly hub centred as they were difficult to get off when they had been on for a while.

I raise this now as the rear axle on the series 1 is as standard with no substantial protruding hub so the rear with the RRC wheels may have to be supported by the wheel studs (in fact by the nuts). The inside shape of the RRC wheels means it might miss the locating ring on the rear hubs - but I havn't tried it yet to see.

I cannot see this being an issue but am open to informed comment.

Garry

I don't think it will be a problem - as you point out, the studs alone support the wheel on the semifloating rear axle. Worth noting that the studs are far thicker on Landrovers than on any comparable vehicle.

John

[ahebron]

Bit of trivia here.
The term used to describe wheels that are located on the hub centre is hubcentric
The term used to describe wheels that are located by the wheelnuts/bolts is lugcentric

By the way I do like a Series on earlier RRC rims, especially a SWB S1.

Adrian