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Thread: Series 2A 109 Forward Control - Removing Mud Excluder

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    Series 2A 109 Forward Control - Removing Mud Excluder

    Good Evening All,
    We are in the process of removing the engine timing chain cover and eventually replacing the front oil seal, however it seems the mud excluder must first be removed. - Any ideas how to remove the 8 hammer drive screws holding the excluder? And would we refit the cover with bolts/hammer screws/rivets?
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    ...Just so you all don't get too excited, the above post was from my office manager, Nick. I don't usually get involved working on these older (But still classic) vehicles...he was enquiring for an associate of his...

    JC
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    So what is the difference between a FC 2.25 engine and a series 2 2.25 engine - I take it they must be different.
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    the only workshop manual that makes reference to forward controls is the Dec 1963 manual and it only has the 2.6 and gearbox as special sections. (the 2.6 was in the FC 3 years before it arrived in the normal control.)

    When you look in the FC parts catalogue, there are very few 4 cyl parts marked as new part not used before and they are things like head gasket and oil filter adapter.

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    I thought 2As were 4 cylinders and 2Bs were 6 cylinders - not helping JC a lot but clarifying information for me.
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    Hi Garry

    It gets a bit confusing, in the UK there was only 1 six cylinder SIIa FC the rest were petrol or diesel four cylinders however there were almost 1,100 export six cylinder SIIa. For the SIIB the situation in the UK was almost the exact oposite. So what you said is essentially true for the UK, and who else talks about SIIa/SIIb.

    I have reproduced a table below.
    The SIIb CKD were mostly assembled in South Africa and the records were not available to the person who compiled the table in the UK.



    I have chassis number 327 of the RHD CKD 6 cyl sequence (prefix 332)

    I was out at LVS today and Brian has a 4.4 FC which has a production aftermarket adapter, so likely Marks or Dellow. (Was kicking myself becuase I didn't get the chassis number.)
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    Justinc,

    My distinct recollection is that the "first" time you do this job, the timing cover must be removed.

    Then the drive screws are drifted out from the back using a suitable pin punch.

    Then there is a choice - self tappers, or tap the holes for machine screws. Best I recall, maybe M4 or thereabouts. And a dab of sealant.

    That means that "next" time, the job is real quick and easy, and only the mud shield needs removing to get at the seal.

    And, while you are looking at that end of the donk, maybe invest in a "speedi-sleeve" (I just went below to try and find a pulley to measure, but too dark and too well hidden). If the journal on the pulley has the slightest groove, it is well worth it.

    And if my addled memory is any good, it may be possible to get seals of a different thickness, and install them in an ever so slightly different position to create a new wear area.

    Finally, these old engines really set the standard for oil leaks that every lany engine has been striving to meet ever since, so whatever you do, plan on doing it again and maybe slightly differently some time in the near future.

    Cheers,

    Gumnut.

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