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    it's official

    i'm too ****ing stupid to sort out the brakes on a ser ii shorty!

    everything is new

    i finally have a consistent half a stroke to a hard pedal

    pulled it all apart AGAIN today

    seem to have even wear marks on the shoes and drums

    springs are all round the right way

    master cyl appears is fine (i may need to adjust the stroke a little)

    but the son of a bitch still grabs and tightens up esp on passenger side ...

    most frustrating ......

    but in the cooling down periods i got some work done on petal as well ... just basic stuff fitting rubbers etc etc
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    so push the peddle, nothing happens then the peddle gets hard and then she bites??

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    i'm too ****ing stupid to sort out the brakes on a ser ii shorty!

    I wasnt going to say that but you did



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    swap the flex lines over left to right and see what happens.

    I have had a new hose that was poorly made and had a crush point in the fitting, fluid would easily go in under pressure but would not return resulting in brakes that grabbed and dragged after application.

    you could also not have the freeplay at the top adjusted correctly or a sticking fast fill valve on the MC preventing the system from dumping pressure.
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    put another two new hoses on today in the vain hope that would be the problem, but alas no...

    will go over the MC adjustments again after the weekend..

    my glasses keep fogging up every time i go near it at the moment....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 85 county View Post
    so push the peddle, nothing happens then the peddle gets hard and then she bites??
    no not after todays effort...

    pedal now behaves and i get hard pedal at about 50% stroke

    (you can hear the shoes moving in the hub)

    BUT

    if you rotate the hubs either way the darling little things tighten up and bind on the shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The ho har's View Post
    I wasnt going to say that but you did
    being the realist that i am
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    no not after todays effort...

    pedal now behaves and i get hard pedal at about 50% stroke

    (you can hear the shoes moving in the hub)

    BUT

    if you rotate the hubs either way the darling little things tighten up and bind on the shoes.
    if by a hard pedal you me pressure then there is an ajustment problem, probably shoes. i think this is more likely if you can hear the shoes moving, becouse there should be very little movement.

    binding do you meen the brakes come on or thay lock up? if thay lock up is that with pedal on or not

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    just to be dumb as a post...

    did you clean the drums out from the preservative and thats not holding the shoes to the drums?

    Are the drums actually round?

    Are the shoes centering correctly?

    Are the snails walking the shoes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    did you clean the drums out from the preservative and thats not holding the shoes to the drums?

    Are the drums actually round?

    Are the shoes centering correctly?

    Are the snails walking the shoes?
    yes to all the above to the best of my knowledge

    cleaned them

    i have even wear pattern on the drum and the shoes with what seems a consistent coverage of the majority of both

    snails seems to be working fine, i can back them off and tighten them so the hub wont turn and when i back it off the hubs will turn but they tighten and bind if you keep turning on both fronts, rears are fine it seems.
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    1996 300TDi Auto D1 Mrs Inc's DD |
    "TowTent" Viscount Gazelle 3.9m |"Monty" 03 BA Ford Fairmont DD

    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
    "If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
    'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson

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