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    Aux Tank change over tap

    G'Day

    I have a 90 tank that will be going into my Defender as an Aux tank. I know there is a Land Rover diesel change over tap that was fitted to the diesel Lightweights, but they are quite rare. I have also heard they are prone to let air to bleed in. Most of my previous Land Rover research done with my Lightweight was based on Brit ideas as it was rebuilt in the UK.

    Was thinking a lot of Tojo's where fitted with electric change over taps, so was wondering what is typically used in Aus to change fuel in, return and electrics?


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    Search for 6 port Pollack Fuel Solenoid.
    Will change supply and return between two tanks as well as switch over the fuel gauge sender signal. Not energized after switch is thrown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post
    Search for 6 port Pollack Fuel Solenoid.
    Will change supply and return between two tanks as well as switch over the fuel gauge sender signal. Not energized after switch is thrown.

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    I have successfully used powered aviation change over valves in the past.

    Given the industry they came from, they were bullet proof in reliability terms - no idea about the make of them though because I 'acquired' them!

    Perhaps a good place to start googling though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Jon View Post
    I have successfully used powered aviation change over valves in the past.

    Given the industry they came from, they were bullet proof in reliability terms - no idea about the make of them though because I 'acquired' them!

    Perhaps a good place to start googling though
    reminds me of my old Nissan G60, as it had so many 'acquired parts' on it off aircraft it wanted to park on the taxi way ..... At one point it was completely primed in green etch primer...... The joys of youth in the military

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    Hi Mike

    The petrol powered lightweights only had to draw from the tank, and as you know a diesel needs to also have a return line to the tank and while you can use a single channel tap to only change over the supply line, you will get to a situation where the main tank overflows with the return volume.

    Yes you can get electric operation dual channel change over taps at a price, but by far the simplest method is to use an electric fuel transfer pump to draw from your secondary tank and top up the main tank. Electric fuel pumps like the small facet brand are cheap and have a one way valve, so you can even insert the "T" connection to transfer the fuel, in the current overflow vent or the fuel return line for your main tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Hi Mike

    The petrol powered lightweights only had to draw from the tank, and as you know a diesel needs to also have a return line to the tank and while you can use a single channel tap to only change over the supply line, you will get to a situation where the main tank overflows with the return volume.

    Yes you can get electric operation dual channel change over taps at a price, but by far the simplest method is to use an electric fuel transfer pump to draw from your secondary tank and top up the main tank. Electric fuel pumps like the small facet brand are cheap and have a one way valve, so you can even insert the "T" connection to transfer the fuel, in the current overflow vent or the fuel return line for your main tank.

    Diana
    Lightweights also were produced in 2.5 NA diesels with the major user being the Dutch (long story and is humourous to read). The Belgiums had them and if I recall correctly a few Brit ones. The change over tap in these has the return line built in. They turn up on ebay from time to time nos. Pretty sure only fitted to Lightweights as never seen on any other ex MoD Land Rover

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    Quote Originally Posted by fesm_ndt View Post
    Lightweights also were produced in 2.5 NA diesels with the major user being the Dutch ...
    The Danes had the 2.5 NA diesel too, but the point is that the cheapest easiest available option is to use a transfer pump.



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    most of those valves will eventually leak I reccomend using a transfer pump with a secondary filter/strainer.

    the electric pollacks that change on a pulse rather than needing power to change IMO are the best ones to use with the ones that require a 12V feed on them coming a close second.
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    duel tank set up

    This is how I would do it.
    1. Fuel pump and common filling point and a vdo sender unit that come with a low level switch. You wire up a low level light and used the power to the light to turn off the transfer pump. You turn the pump on it pumps fuel into the main tankand flows back when it get the main tank full, turns off by it self and when you main guage starts to go down you know the aux tank is empty
    2. If you can't do a common filler go with pannel valves, I have mine under in the seat box right behind my lift leg easy to get to. Get the vdo sender to run a warning light. The senders you order then the length you want and they go in from the top of the tank. Mine is about set a bit high my light comes on when there is about 25 liters left in the main tank. But I guess its a bit of safty margin and I know I can get about 100km on the spare tank if I need too.
    I would avoid the electric one because they are plastic and break when you try to get the lines off them ARB doesn't even sell them with the tanks but they do show them in the picks. You will be away some where get a blockage and it will be in that valve and you will breack it getting the lines off it.
    With the seperate panel valves you can have the supply or return into either tank. Say you got a small hole in one tank you can feel from one and return to the other. Or if one valve leaks you can use the other valve one a joiner on the return line etc.

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