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                                                9th April 2012, 10:54 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			Output shaft end play in ZF auto.
		
 
			
				
					 Pulled out the Borgwarner Transfercase today. After doing so I inspected the spigot shaft and noticed significant movement in the shaft from the ZF. My guess is that there shouldn't be any play? I have a lot of play. The auto has always shifted very nicely and has 250k on it. Although I have always noticed a bit of vibration at about 80-90km/h but goes away very quickly. That could be a hundred other things though. Pulled out the Borgwarner Transfercase today. After doing so I inspected the spigot shaft and noticed significant movement in the shaft from the ZF. My guess is that there shouldn't be any play? I have a lot of play. The auto has always shifted very nicely and has 250k on it. Although I have always noticed a bit of vibration at about 80-90km/h but goes away very quickly. That could be a hundred other things though.
 
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                                                9th April 2012, 12:44 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Well unless your checking the Park Brake Sprag ,what are you actually checking Radial / Tangential or axial end play ?All auto output shafts can feel like that due to not much shaft end support ,thats what the tcase is for .
				 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                9th April 2012, 12:56 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Basically grabbing the output shaft, I can move it a few mm's in any direction. I haven't tested axial movement. I thought there would be a rear bearing in the ZF to prevent any movement. Forgive me for my ignorance in this matter as I'm not familiar with autos etc
 
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                                                9th April 2012, 05:57 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Generally with 2wd auto boxes the output shaft flops around until the tailshaft is fitted. In and out movement is limited only by a circlip on the shaft as hydraulic pressure in the clutches keeps the shaft against its thrust race. Unless you pull the sump and find metal fragments I would leave your box strictly alone.
				 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                9th April 2012, 08:51 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks for the info. I was starting to think that I'll have to replace the auto aswell  . .
 
 Whilst I have the crossmember unbolted I might get a ZF service kit and drain everything and inspect for any metal. A good time to also get a replacement oil seal for the end drive shaft. Mine didn't leak until I started moving the shaft around, but better change it anyways.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                10th April 2012, 10:09 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Went to the automatic shop to find a seal and I mentioned about the play in the output shaft and they said that it is normal...... good to hear  ) )
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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