Urgent help needed bleeding series 3 brakes.

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Originally Posted by Col.Coleman

This is the foolproof order.

1: Back all adjusters right off.
2: Bleed from rear left, rear right, front left, front right, repeat,
3: adjust up each shoe until it grips, back off 1 click
4: done

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i do the same except for the first bleed i have the adjusters up till the shoes are touching firmly

then i back off for the second run...

i just gravity bleed mine, one at a time, no particular order, always works with zero mess you just have to keep an eye on the reservoir. I do this with all our cars, works on clutches as well.

I've also tried all sorts of things over the years. Lately, I've settled on having either: the whole car on stands, all drums and shoes off, and wheel cylinder pistons clamped right in, or: using ratchet straps to push the shoes right in. I just found this seemed to help reduce the little hidey-holes for air pockets. I've used a one-man bleeder with good results as well. As pointed out, it only takes one little thing out of adjustment to cause this problem.

Now I haven't driven the Landie for a very long time, so I guess I'll be doing it again soon enough too!

brakes?

isnt that what the black knob on the stick that comes out of the hump in the middle of the floor is for?

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

brakes?

isnt that what the black knob on the stick that comes out of the hump in the middle of the floor is for?

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there are moments in life where you are 100% correct :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

brakes?

isnt that what the black knob on the stick that comes out of the hump in the middle of the floor is for?

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It was last time I drove it!!!

I don't normally use or need the brakes backing out of my driveway so the first indication that I had none was when I got to the intersection a km away from home. Gears work very well as brakes, also discovered that unlike other vehicles the handbrake does not work very well to slow down a landrover.....

There have been cases of the handbrake assembly being ripped off the back of the transmission when using it on the move. Maybe your shoes are covered in oil?

Come to think of it, I use the gears a lot and I don't reckon I've ever worn out the shoes in my Landie.

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Originally Posted by Davo

There have been cases of the handbrake assembly being ripped off the back of the transmission when using it on the move. Maybe your shoes are covered in oil?

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Originally they were - hence the rebuild - one front set covered in brake fluid from a burst wheel cylinder and one rear covered in grease from a failed hub seal. Plus a warped rear drum on the other side.

Better now and fixed with adjustment on the wheels. But is there a pedal adjustment on boosted systems? Can't seem to find any reference to it in the manual, just the steps for the non boosted type.

Sorry, I meant on the handbrake, since you mentioned how it didn't seem to help that much.

No adjustment for the boosted pedal that I recall. It just bolts together.

I have had the same problem in the past, we eventually got someone into the drivers seat, pump the pedal up HARD and hold it, then crack off the brake line fitting(s) that come out of the master cyl. The pedal will sink and and you will hopefully will be amazed at the amount of air that comes out. If you have dual circuit brakes, then both lines must be done, easier if you do them one at a time. Don't worry about spillage, just nip the fitting up BEFORE you let the pedal up.
The adjustment is critical, but once you have them balanced evenly then they"re not too bad.
You may also want to see that the shoes are sitting perpendicular to the bak plate so that they are not rubbing the drum unevenly across the face,there are adjust ment bolts through the back plate for this.

Good luck,

Jacknz