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    From what I can see your AS10 was superseeded to YWC106260

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Its not good enough to just check an earth with a ohm meter, a zero ohm earth can for all intents and purposes go open cct under load. The only way to confirm an earth fault is to run a new cable from neg battery post to the component in question. It pays to run new / redundant earth cables from engine block to chassis, chassis to body, battery to chassis, battery to ECU ,
    chassis to loom earth etc etc . Aluminium is conductive, but Aluminium oxide is not - that is the white stuff you find under your body earth lugs and between your body / chassis connections.
    If the ECU is earthed through its case then it is earthed!. I have a new cable running from the negative of the battery post to one of the bolts that hold the ECU down

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    There are 4 earth wires at left end of the black ECU plug when looking from the back of the plug. Pins 1,2, 23,24 from memory. The case is probably grounded for RF shielding given there is what looks like a switch mode PS inside.

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    It works !

    After much reading and trial and error it was the alarm coding section which seems to have been the problem.

    On the sticker on the unit in the dash is the week and year and serial number that must be put in.
    so on mine the sticker was 27/00
    The year is 2000 and the week is 27
    The serial number is the next number up from it

    Down further in the field that says what type of immobiliser it connects too, in the MEMS/TD5 field i found a doc that said you can put what you like in there, between 0 and about 65000 from memory, so I put in 1234

    Then told the ECU to learn the code and then it worked !!

    The only thing left I have is the engine light on, with no errors (that are relevant) recorded)
    But I am sure it is still in the defender alarm section as I have changed so many things in there trying to fix it.
    I have now saved the settings so I can go through and change them and see which one it is doing it

    thanks all fro your input

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    Also I was wondering how often the AS10 does fail. It seems like it would be another show stopper if it failed in the middle of somewhere remote.
    Might be another thing to add to the list of parts to take

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    They fail from time to time, although not common IT IS a show stopper if you are remote.

    JC
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    TD5 ECUs can be modified to not need the link - no more show stopper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    TD5 ECUs can be modified to not need the link - no more show stopper
    Is it a difficult mod., ? Bob
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    Hi Bob
    when I was reading through the AS10 manual I came across the following (Try at your own risk !!!- back up first)
    The last line may be pertinent, but I suspect the ECU still talks to the AS10 even with these options


    Plip immobilise: This setting configures the alarm to not immobilize the vehicle whenever the vehicle is locked using the plip. Setting this to NO effectively turns off engine immobilization protection when the plip is used to arm the alarm although it does not affect the immobilization when the key is used or the alarm itself . This can be disabled using the KEY IMMOBILISE and the ALARM ARMING. Turning off all three literally turns the alarm ECU into a central locking controller only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitdist View Post
    Hi Bob
    when I was reading through the AS10 manual I came across the following (Try at your own risk !!!- back up first)
    The last line may be pertinent, but I suspect the ECU still talks to the AS10 even with these options


    Plip immobilise: This setting configures the alarm to not immobilize the vehicle whenever the vehicle is locked using the plip. Setting this to NO effectively turns off engine immobilization protection when the plip is used to arm the alarm although it does not affect the immobilization when the key is used or the alarm itself . This can be disabled using the KEY IMMOBILISE and the ALARM ARMING. Turning off all three literally turns the alarm ECU into a central locking controller only.
    And I suspect that you are right!
    The ECU has a 'Robust' And 'non Robust' mode.
    The non robust mode allows the ECU to run the engine without talking to the AS10 module however I have read that once the ECU has talked to the AS10 module and established a security link it goes into Robust mode and this cannot be reversed.
    The non robust mode was there for vehicles not fitted with the AS10 module.
    If I can find where I read it I will post it.

    However it looks like someone may have found a way around this.
    So disabling the immobiliser function with a Nanocom or other similar device probably does not stop the ECU checking with the AS10 module before allowing the engine to start.

    Tombie has pointed out that breaking the link is possible so I to would be interested in disabling this 'show stopper'.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    Edit; Found It!
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    Paul.

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    95 300Tdi Ute (sold)
    2003 XTREME Td5

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