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    TSL ENGINE OIL FORTIFIER??

    Does anyone know if this is available in Australia. Anyone tried it?

    Thread here: DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - TSL ENGINE OIL FORTIFIER - 32 REVIEWS AND COUNTING!

    The product could produce major benefits to any engine and is sold in a single application which is added to the engine oil.

    The potential benefits amongst others are:

    • A quieter and smoother running engine
    • Fuel consumption reduced by approx. 6% to 8%
    • Oil usage reduced up to 50% and in some cases even more.
    • Prevents cold start damage
    • Reduces wear and extends engine lifetime
    • In most cases will increase power and torque
    • Gearbox and differential will become quieter
    • Engine temperature could lower by 8°C to 10°C
    • No more noise from the hydraulic tappets



    This is a one time application and will last until the engine oil is changed.
    The product would then need to be re-administered but in a reduced quantity.

    The TSL Oil Fortifiers make use of an unique and exclusive technology. The combination of both passive and active chemistry affords the TSL Oil Fortifiers substantial ability to enhance your lubricants.

    Passive chemistry treats the metal by penetrating the metal surface with a chemical friction barrier. This chemical barrier is several angstroms thick and will not affect close tolerances, however, this chemical barrier acts much like a glove to surround and protect the metal parts.

    Active chemistry treats the oil with a stabilized EP agent which becomes active whenever extreme conditions are present. The active agents become chemically active and create a chemical barrier to prevent metal to metal contact.

    The carrier transports both active and passive EP agents to every area of your lubrication system.

    TSL Oil Fortifiers are extremely concentrated. Treatment of most oil systems is accomplished at a 3% level. Although it is ok to treat oil systems at a higher level than 3%, light duty applications generally do not require a higher treat level. Severe applications such as gearboxes and high heat generating operations can be treated as high as 5% for optimum results.

    TSL contains:

    • Turbine Grade Anti-oxidants
    • Detergent Additives
    • Dispersant Additives
    • Foam Control Agents
    • Rust Preventatives
    • Corrosion Preventatives
    • Passive EP Agents
    • Active EP Agents
    • Friction Modifiers
    • Pour Point Depressants
    • Autoignition Inhibitors



    TSL does not contain:


    • PTFE Additives (Teflon)
    • Graphite
    • Lead
    • Molybdenum
    • Chlorinated Solvents
    • Active Sulphur


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_ngIKOEEU]TSL OIL FORTIFIER DEMONSTRATION VIDEO.avi - YouTube[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calis View Post
    Does anyone know if this is available in Australia. Anyone tried it?

    Thread here: DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - TSL ENGINE OIL FORTIFIER - 32 REVIEWS AND COUNTING!

    The product could produce major benefits to any engine and is sold in a single application which is added to the engine oil.

    The potential benefits amongst others are:

    • A quieter and smoother running engine
    • Fuel consumption reduced by approx. 6% to 8%
    • Oil usage reduced up to 50% and in some cases even more.
    • Prevents cold start damage
    • Reduces wear and extends engine lifetime
    • In most cases will increase power and torque
    • Gearbox and differential will become quieter
    • Engine temperature could lower by 8°C to 10°C
    • No more noise from the hydraulic tappets



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    occasionally you'll see these guys at shows, a question for the guys who have seen them.

    ever notice that when they do these tests they never use a labeled bottle of oil and they wont let you provide a sample of oil for them to use for a publicly conducted before test at the show?
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    Not had any direct experience with this particular one mate,
    I have worked for a major oil company in the past in the r&d sector,
    Also used additives in fleet diesels for a hire company and can honestly say there were no massive positives in the vehicles with the additives compared to the ones without to make me use one.
    I always tell people it's best to spend the money on good quality regular oil changes, always stood me well, some folks swear by additives mind.
    Some of the diesel conditioners with anti algae properties aren't bad.
    I had a recurring issue with my td5 defender that's been resolved since I started using a conditioner. Hope this is helpful mate.
    Ps: I don't sell any of this gear, just for the record.

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    Hi guys,

    I'm actually the one that does sell this in the United Kingdom.

    And to answers some initial misconceptions, our Oil Fortifier is actually
    a NATO Approved product, it is also registered with the European
    Chemicals Agency (ECHA) under the REACH Program and it conforms with the latest E.U. Safety Directives.

    I'm sure that you will agree that if our product wasn't up to scratch
    we wouldn't get those accreditations.

    We have on the aforementioned site, Disco3.co.uk., sold to over 100
    members who have used our product and shared their experiences
    with fellow members. Which you can read yourself and then
    make your own conclusions about our product.

    It's been used in the majority of Land Rover models such as
    Discovery 2,3,4, Range Rovers, Defenders, Freelanders etc.

    If you wish more information or have questions, please let me know
    and I'll try and answer them at the first opportunity I get.

    We are able to ship to Australia, and postage is charged at cost price.

    Kind regards,

    Hess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hess View Post
    Hi guys,

    I'm actually the one that does sell this in the United Kingdom.

    And to answers some initial misconceptions, our Oil Fortifier is actually
    a NATO Approved product, it is also registered with the European
    Chemicals Agency (ECHA) under the REACH Program and it conforms with the latest E.U. Safety Directives.


    I'm sure that you will agree that if our product wasn't up to scratch
    we wouldn't get those accreditations.

    We have on the aforementioned site, Disco3.co.uk., sold to over 100
    members who have used our product and shared their experiences
    with fellow members. Which you can read yourself and then
    make your own conclusions about our product.

    It's been used in the majority of Land Rover models such as
    Discovery 2,3,4, Range Rovers, Defenders, Freelanders etc.

    If you wish more information or have questions, please let me know
    and I'll try and answer them at the first opportunity I get.

    We are able to ship to Australia, and postage is charged at cost price.

    Kind regards,

    Hess
    Sorry Sir,

    But not one of those accreditations has anything to do with performance or lifespan....

    Whilst the comments from your obviously happy customers may be their impression... I'm getting the same economy figures as them already without using your additive

    If I order 2 bottles do I get a free Hiclone?

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    So who is the manufacturer of TSL Oil?

    And do you have an MSDS for it?

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    Testimonials aside, any results from independant testing to verify the stated claims?

    Is there even a website with technical specifications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Sorry Sir,
    But not one of those accreditations has anything to do with performance or lifespan....
    They are to show that the product has passed testing
    to a satisfactory level to be granted these accreditations.
    When a product is NATO Approved, it is deemed suitable for its claimed
    purpose and I am sure that you will agree that as one of our customers
    is the Royal Dutch Navy, they'll make sure that what they use is
    suitable for their applications.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Whilst the comments from your obviously happy customers may be their impression... I'm getting the same economy figures as them already without using your additive
    Your fuel economy is not an indicator as to what their fuel economy
    should be with or without TSL in the engine.
    Obviously their fuel economy has increased since using TSL, had they not
    then their fuel economy would have remained at previous level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    If I order 2 bottles do I get a free Hiclone?
    I had to search what that is. This is in no way related to TSL.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    So who is the manufacturer of TSL Oil?
    And do you have an MSDS for it?
    We do indeed have an MSDS for it.
    I will also include a chemical analysis at the end of it.

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    Safety Data Sheet according to 1907/2006/EC, Article 31
    Printing date 17.11.2009 Revision: 10.11.2009
    DR
    1 Identification of the substance/preparation and of the company/undertaking
    · Product details
    · Trade name: TSL
    · Application of the substance / the preparation Additive
    · Product intended for: Trade users / technical specialists.
    · Manufacturer/Supplier:
    All Star Trade International Imp./Exp.
    Arkansasdreef 32 k
    3565 AR Utrecht
    Nederland
    · Information in case of emergency: All Star Trade International Imp./Exp. +31 (0)6 - 52460057
    2 Hazards identification
    · Hazard description: Not applicable.
    · Information concerning particular hazards for human and environment:
    The product does not have to be labelled due to the calculation procedure of the "General Classification
    guideline for preparations of the EU" in the latest valid version.
    · Classification system:
    The classification is according to the latest editions of the EU-lists, and extended by company and literature
    data.
    3 Composition/information on ingredients
    · Chemical characterization
    · Description: Mixture of substances listed below with nonhazardous additions.
    · Dangerous components:
    68410-99-1 Chlorinated olefin 35-65%
    68527-02-6 Alkenes, C12-24, chloro 35-65%
    · Additional information: For the wording of the listed risk phrases refer to section 16.
    4 First-aid measures
    · General information: Immediately remove any clothing soiled by the product.
    · After inhalation: Supply fresh air; consult doctor in case of complaints.
    · After skin contact:
    Generally the product does not irritate the skin.
    Wash with water and soap.
    · After eye contact:
    Rinse opened eye for several minutes under running water. In case of symptoms, consult a doctor.
    · After swallowing: Do not induce vomiting; call for medical help immediately.
    · Information for doctor: Symptomatic treatment.
    5 Fire-fighting measures
    · Suitable extinguishing agents:
    Use fire extinguishing methods suitable to surrounding conditions.
    Fire-extinguishing powder
    Carbon dioxide
    Foam
    Water haze
    · For safety reasons unsuitable extinguishing agents: Water spray
    (Contd. on page 2)
    GB

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    Safety Data Sheet
    according to 1907/2006/EC, Article 31
    Printing date 17.11.2009 Revision: 10.11.2009
    Trade name: TSL
    (Contd. of page 1)
    DR
    · Special hazards caused by the substance, its products of combustion or resulting gases:
    Hydrogen chloride (HCl)
    Carbon dioxide (CO2)
    Carbon monoxide (CO)
    · Protective equipment: Do not inhale combustion gases. Wear fully protective suit.
    · Additional information Cool endangered receptacles with water spray.
    6 Accidental release measures
    · Person-related safety precautions:
    Avoid contact with skin.
    Ensure adequate ventilation
    · Measures for environmental protection: Do not allow to enter sewers/ surface or ground water.
    · Measures for cleaning/collecting:
    Absorb with liquid-binding material (sand, diatomite, acid binders, universal binders, sawdust).
    7 Handling and storage
    · Handling:
    · Information for safe handling: Prevent the formation of mist.
    · Information about fire - and explosion protection: No special measures required.
    · Storage:
    · Requirements to be met by storerooms and receptacles: No special requirements.
    · Information about storage in one common storage facility: Not required.
    · Further information about storage conditions: None.
    8 Exposure controls/personal protection
    · Additional information about design of technical facilities: No further data; see item 7.
    · Ingredients with limit values that require monitoring at the workplace:
    The product does not contain any relevant quantities of materials with critical values that have to be
    monitored at the workplace.
    · Additional information: The lists valid during the making were used as basis.
    · Personal protective equipment:
    · General protective and hygienic measures:
    The usual precautionary measures are to be adhered to when handling chemicals.
    Wash hands before breaks and at the end of work.
    Do not carry product impregnated cleaning cloths in trouser pockets.
    · Respiratory protection: Not required.
    · Protection of hands:
    The glove material has to be impermeable and resistant to the product/ the substance/ the preparation.
    Due to missing tests no recommendation to the glove material can be given for the product/ the preparation/
    the chemical mixture.
    Selection of the glove material on consideration of the penetration times, rates of diffusion and the
    degradation
    · Material of gloves
    The selection of the suitable gloves does not only depend on the material, but also on further marks of quality
    and varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. As the product is a preparation of several substances, the
    resistance of the glove material can not be calculated in advance and has therefore to be checked prior to the
    application.
    · Penetration time of glove material
    The exact break trough time has to be found out by the manufacturer of the protective gloves and has to be observed.
    (Contd. on page 3)
    GB

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    Safety Data Sheet
    according to 1907/2006/EC, Article 31
    Printing date 17.11.2009 Revision: 10.11.2009
    Trade name: TSL
    (Contd. of page 2)
    DR
    · Eye protection: In case of splash risk safety glasses.
    9 Physical and chemical properties
    · General Information
    Form: Fluid
    Colour: Light yellow
    Odour: Light
    · Change in condition
    Melting point/Melting range: Undetermined.
    Boiling point/Boiling range: Undetermined.
    · Flash point: 204°C
    · Self-igniting: Product is not selfigniting.
    · Danger of explosion: Product does not present an explosion hazard.
    · Density at 20°C: 1.2 g/cm³
    · Solubility in / Miscibility with
    water: Insoluble.
    10 Stability and reactivity
    · Thermal decomposition / conditions to be avoided: No decomposition if used according to specifications.
    · Dangerous reactions
    No dangerous reactions known.
    Violent reactions with strong alkalis and oxidizing agents.
    · Dangerous decomposition products:
    Hydrogen chloride (HCl)
    Carbon monoxide (CO)
    Carbon dioxide (CO2)
    11 Toxicological information
    · Acute toxicity:
    · Primary irritant effect:
    · on the skin: Can cause dermatitis after frequent or longer contact.
    · on the eye:
    Although there is no irritation known, it's advisable to prevent eyecontact, when having symptoms consult a
    doctor.
    · Sensitization: No sensitizing effects known.
    · Additional toxicological information:
    The product is not subject to classification according to the calculation method of the General EU
    Classification Guidelines for Preparations as issued in the latest version.
    When used and handled according to specifications, the product does not have any harmful effects to our
    experience and the information provided to us.
    12 Ecological information
    · Ecotoxical effects:
    · Acquatic toxicity:
    LC50/96h 301 mg/l (fish)
    (Contd. on page 4)
    GB

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    Safety Data Sheet
    according to 1907/2006/EC, Article 31
    Printing date 17.11.2009 Revision: 10.11.2009
    Trade name: TSL
    (Contd. of page 3)
    DR
    · General notes: Water hazard class 1 (German Regulation) (Self-assessment): slightly hazardous for water
    13 Disposal considerations
    · Product:
    · Recommendation Disposal must be made according to official regulations.
    · Uncleaned packaging:
    · Recommendation: Disposal must be made according to official regulations.
    14 Transport information
    · Land transport ADR/RID (cross-border)
    · ADR/RID class: -
    · Maritime transport IMDG:
    · IMDG Class: -
    · Marine pollutant: No
    · Air transport ICAO-TI and IATA-DGR:
    · ICAO/IATA Class: -
    · Transport/Additional information: Not dangerous according to the above specifications.
    15 Regulatory information
    · Labelling according to EU guidelines:
    Observe the general safety regulations when handling chemicals.
    The product is not subject to identification regulations under EU Directives and the Ordinance on Hazardous Materials (German GefStoffV).
    16 Other information
    This information is based on our present knowledge. However, this shall not constitute a guarantee for any specific product features and shall not establish a legally valid contractual relationship.
    GB
    Density, g/cm3 @ 15C ASTM - D 1298 1.079
    Ash, sulfated, wt % in use ASTM - D 874 0.14 %
    Flash point COC F (C) ASTM - D 92 325 (163)
    Fire point COC F (C) ASDM - D 92 335 (169)
    Total base number ASTM - D 2896 3.4
    Total acid number ASTM - D 664 1.9
    Pour point F (C) ASTM - D 97 -35 (-37)
    Color ASTM - D 1500 2.6
    Viscosity Cst @ 100C ASTM - D 445 4.86
    Foaming tests ASTM - D 892 Pass 0/0/0
    Denison HF2 Pass
    Vickers Pass
    Cincinnati Milacron Pass
    Zinc % wt. .04
    Copper % wt. .00
    Copper strip corrosion ASTM- D 130 1A Pass

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    NATO - like the North American Treaty Organisation NATO or am I missing something?

    And why when I Google TSL oil fortifier can I not find a website? All I seem to find were advertisements ans banging on about customer reviews "proofing" (sic) how marvellous it is and nothing resembling a independent review.

    I haven't found anything that influences a conclusion other than snake oil.

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