Winch Selection Advise

I've been checking out winches for my new 4x4 project, and after having 3 or 4 Warn winches over the years I am thinking of going for a KingOne brand TDS winch. Also branded as Avenger too.

They seem to get great reviews and whilst not cheap, they are a lot more moderately priced than a Warn. They have the braking mechanism off to the side, so OK to use synthetic rope on them.

Nothing wrong with Warn. I've got an old one that has to be 20 years old and still works nicely. But not sure their premium price is worth it, and not sure that the new Warns have the same build quality as the older ones.....

A lot of low mount winches have braking in the drum. This causes heat which is fine with steel cable, but oh so bad with rope. So look for one that has the braking not in the drum if you are looking at using rope. Another good point for a Warne high mount is the type of gearing used. Does not put as much load on the motor as a low mount Early Warne winchs had only a two and a half horse motor and did the job. Anothe good winch to consider is a Thomas right angle drive unit. Has the motor at right angles to the drum and drives the drum through a gear set and worm drive. Very strong and agian does not load the motor up and cheaper than a Warne.
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I personally have a fairly uncommon winch. For the above reasons. It is a worm drive through a gear box. Good strong system.
Cheers Hall

Get a Warn XP9.5 (my current choice) or a Avenger Mako and be done with it.

Get a hi-mount Warn if you want a bit of a stuff around option but want the best in the long run - an XP9.5 will get you 90% there with less hassle.

If you can wait good high mounts come up second hand. I picked one up BNIB for $1500 IIRC.. More expensive than a low mount but you get a good product.

I don't mind the 8000 pound rating, as it puts less strain on everything and you can always double back for more if needed. (and the speed and length of rope on a high mount make that not a problem at all).

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Originally Posted by flagg

If you can wait good high mounts come up second hand. I picked one up BNIB for $1500 IIRC.. More expensive than a low mount but you get a good product.

I don't mind the 8000 pound rating, as it puts less strain on everything and you can always double back for more if needed. (and the speed and length of rope on a high mount make that not a problem at all).

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What sort of rope length do the high mounts hold? My concern with the high mount is restriction of the radiator as I am already having overheating issues.

I fit my 45 metre synthetic rope on my hi-mount, coiled on by hand, more would fit under load. Your bullbar may need minor mods to fit a hi-mount though, depending on design.

Caveat emptor - buyer beware: The problem with asking opinion on a product (just to get under the Warn-o-philes skin):

"Post-purchase rationalization, also known as Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome, is a cognitive bias whereby someone who has purchased an expensive product or service overlooks any faults or defects in order to justify their purchase.

Many purchasing decisions are made emotionally, based on factors such as brand-loyalty and advertising, and so are often rationalized retrospectively in an attempt to justify the choice."

However, if money was no object, this would be my choice:
RED Winch Hydraulic 4x4 Challenge and Competition Winches

FYI-I have an Ironman 12000lb and it has worked perfectly for 4 years, mostly pulling trees off tracks and a very drowned to the roof and stuck Rodeo in the Turon River (V6 petrol. A few hours drying, WD40 and an oil change and it started and drove off, much to my amazement).

Now, let the (defensive) abuse begin!

Here ya go chook, Warn High mount
Warn High Mount Winch | eBay

Personally I think Warn winches are over rated, most of the other brands of the same quality are much cheaper, but hey, to each their own.

Baz.

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Originally Posted by redrovertdi

For me warne xd9000 bought 2nd hand, stripped it down and cleaned and re greased, i think i paid $500ish, its been well used and the only times its failed to work was due to a poor earth[chassis-as i spray under my car with lanox very regulary it creeps inbetween], i recently replaced the wire cable with another new wire as it gets dragged over rocks and through shail in Glasshouse mountains. Also recently replaced the 4 solinoids with a single solinoid and a cordless remote[way better now with two cordless remotes than a corded remote that wasnt long enough-ie pulling logs 40m away from car with cordless remote at log end instead of stuck at the end of cord near car]. If you buy warne you can get parts. I generally strip and clean the winch once a year.

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Would be interested to know what new solenoid you used. I intend to strip down and clean my XD9000 and would be interested in replacing solenoids
Thanks
Pete

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Originally Posted by ugu80

Caveat emptor - buyer beware: The problem with asking opinion on a product (just to get under the Warn-o-philes skin):

"Post-purchase rationalization, also known as Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome, is a cognitive bias whereby someone who has purchased an expensive product or service overlooks any faults or defects in order to justify their purchase."

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I'm sorry ugu80, but Post-purchase rationalization would NEVER happen on this forum. Everyone here is completely objective about their vehicles and totally brand agnostic, same as on other 4WD forums. ;)