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    Joel having spoken to people who work extensively on these engines ANY Td5 can have this issue.
    Don't delay to do it you would kick yourself if it failed as a result of you not doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djam1 View Post
    Joel having spoken to people who work extensively on these engines ANY Td5 can have this issue.
    Don't delay to do it you would kick yourself if it failed as a result of you not doing it.
    Yeah, I drive it scared at the moment. I just need the time to do it. I have the Madmad gauge with audible alarm connected to the oil pressure sensor as a precaution in the mean time.

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    I had my D2a setup so that if it lost oil pressure after having had oil pressure (ie allowing for start-up) then the EGR throttle valve would close fully and choke the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joel0407 View Post
    Where do we find the list of effected engines. Mines 10P. I have the bolt (genuine LR with thread lock) but haven't had time to fit it yet. I don't know if it's been changed previously as I bought the vehicle with 165k. Happy Days
    As Djam1 said, just do it. I was only going to move the d2 800m down the road to a different house to do the pump bolt and a service.
    It wasn't to be my day and I joined an unpopular club of owners who knew the potential but figured I couldn't be that unlucky given it had travelled more than 280.000 with out issue.

    There isn't a list, merely conjecture/opinion across forums as to which series of engine should be immune following numerous claims to LR warranty and many more outside.

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    BTW, using a 10w-40 instead of a 5w-40 is a non issue in Australia and particularly above 0°C as they are ordinarily the same viscosity at that temp.
    Infact there's one 15w-40 I can name that's thinner at 0° than some 5w-40's......

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    BTW, using a 10w-40 instead of a 5w-40 is a non issue in Australia and particularly above 0°C as they are ordinarily the same viscosity at that temp.
    Infact there's one 15w-40 I can name that's thinner at 0° than some 5w-40's......
    Do tell! My nissan work car has problems with oil pressure in the cold. Currently running valvoline 5w30 and it's not quite enough. You can hear the timing chain ticking until the oil warms up and thins out.

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    Depends a lot on base oils used.

    I think it goes something like this.
    Use a mix of light weight mineral and PAO or Group III base oils with a heavy dose of viscosity index improvers (VII's) and you'll get good pumpability @ -25° but it tends to thicken appreciably as you approach 0° and maintains the correct viscosity through 40° to 100° but will probably tend to shear a bit in use, and definitely shear in extreme use, eg. racing.

    Use heavier weight POE's and PAO's with no VII's and the naturally high VI of the base oils gives good pumpabability down to around 0°, but starts to thicken a bit below that.

    Eg. About six to seven years ago, Redline's 15w-40 was thinner at 0° than a couple of well regarded wider viscosity span oils.
    I think I posted the comparative list on here at the time in someone else's thread.

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    Andrew,


    Re TD5 engines affected by oil bolt problems - mine is 2004 and I checked it at 170K. I undid the bolt with a short stubby 3/8 ratchet and 1 finger. No thread locker at all.


    Conventional wisdom is only earlier engines were affected. I beg to disagree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alanw View Post
    Conventional wisdom is only earlier engines were affected. I beg to disagree.
    Rgds
    If you read this,
    and own a TD5,
    and DONT KNOW the condition of that bolt.
    You need to stop driving it,,
    and check.



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    Oil viscosity in TD5

    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    BTW, using a 10w-40 instead of a 5w-40 is a non issue in Australia and particularly above 0°C as they are ordinarily the same viscosity at that temp.
    Infact there's one 15w-40 I can name that's thinner at 0° than some 5w-40's......

    Rick, thanks for mentioning that.
    I was a bit surprised when the workshop made a point of telling me (when they later did some work on the car) that I should have used 5W-40 instead of 10W-40. I DID take it on board, but had doubts that it was a big issue, as I live in Perth.
    In any case, "my" 10W-40 was only in the engine for about 2 months, during which I only drove the car about 1000 km. And it was a hell of a lot cleaner and thinner than the oil that was in the engine beforehand (i.e. when I bought the vehicle). The 10W-40 was replaced a month before I had the big-end bearing failure.
    Cheers, Andrew

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