Did You know this 'Can' happen to a diesel (Death by oil)

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

decide to check his lift pump for leaks that might be aerating his fuel

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nice misuse of a quote

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

d) or wondering how many metres he should stand away from his vehicle when it revs itself to destruction

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as many as he could, preferably on the other side of a concrete barrier

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

My God guys.....focus on the problem at hand and don't speculate on this potentially serious $$$$ problem

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(ignoring that untill its actually in the hands of someone who can diagnose it all we can do is speculate)
That may be

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

decide to check his lift pump for leaks that might be aerating his fuel

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That, as mentioned

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Have you checked the condition of the lift pump? you may find that part of your original lack of power problem is a leaking lift pump thats gone from aerating the fuel to dumping it in the sump, the fuel pump on a landy shifts in the vicinity of 1.5l/min@7psi@1000Rpm if you were leaking even 1/4 of that into the sump it would only take it 8 minutes at just over idle to cause enough dilution that the oil begins aerating on its way out of the big ends and main journals not to mention the additional fuming it would receive from trying to cool the under side of the pistons get it juuuust right and you can wind up with an in crank case fire which is nothing much in a small turbo diesel but its not doing any of the metals inside the block any favors. After about another 8 or some minutes in the same conditions the balance weights on the crank and the bottom of the big ends will begin splashing into the surface of the "oil" from here disaster is pretty much inevitable.

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in that post as part of what to check for a potential cause for the unusually high oil, how quickly it can cause a run away and the starters of why it causes a runaway...

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Originally Posted by rick130

I don't know if Serg could've braked/stalled it at 80km/h/full noise ?

I know I couldn't with a throttle jam on a race car once.

Big stab of the middle pedal did eff all, but I was at 6500RPM in top gear at the time.

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

Stop it, Stop it, Stop all this pontification.......the poor guy was innocently driving down the road and had a potential total engine run-away but.........it seems survived a catastrophic disaster.......

Yes he could have -
a) thrown in it neutral and risked a total uncontrolled over-speed (But as he said, he was in solid traffic and more looking out for the other road users {Well Done mate!!}

b) just happened to have a powder fire extingusher at hand and casually open the bonnet and fire it at the EXACT position while dodging peak hour traffic
c) or just happened to have the time to ignore all of his problems and decide to check his lift pump for leaks that might be aerating his fuel (Sic)

d) or wondering how many metres he should stand away from his vehicle when it revs itself to destruction

My God guys.....focus on the problem at hand and don't speculate on this potentially serious $$$$ problem

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:confused:

Was that little outburst really directed at me ?

I realise you'd be totally unaware of the phone calls that have gone back and forth to try and sort this issue rather than play it out in the forum. ;)

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

Stop it, Stop it, Stop all this pontification.......the poor guy was innocently driving down the road and had a potential total engine run-away but.........it seems survived a catastrophic disaster.......

Yes he could have -
a) thrown in it neutral and risked a total uncontrolled over-speed (But as he said, he was in solid traffic and more looking out for the other road users {Well Done mate!!}

b) just happened to have a powder fire extingusher at hand and casually open the bonnet and fire it at the EXACT position while dodging peak hour traffic
c) or just happened to have the time to ignore all of his problems and decide to check his lift pump for leaks that might be aerating his fuel (Sic)

d) or wondering how many metres he should stand away from his vehicle when it revs itself to destruction

My God guys.....focus on the problem at hand and don't speculate on this potentially serious $$$$ problem

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Hey Matt, its ok mate. I knew there would always be a case of someone knowing better with hindesite. I did what I did, and thats all I could do. Rick and Ben have been very helpful outside of here.

It wasnt a super busy road (well not till later that night) but there was one car close behind me, after coming down the hill and having the incident unfold, I was now going up a rise/blind hill (maybe engine angle changed something?) it is a single lane each way, 80km/h whindy road. Where I was there wasnt a shoulder, just a 1 foot deep gully and then a 70 degree bank rising out of the gully. I do have a fire extingisher in my truck. but my bonnet latch handle is broken and requires pliers so that slows things down.....It the engine was stopped before the truck as I wasnt going to jamb on the brakes with the worlds biggest smoke screen between me and the car behind.

Im pretty certain it was my error of too much oil and not something leaking into the crankcase. I drained the oil well and refilled.I pre filled the oil filter. It was high on the dipstick straight away. I did not check the old oil height that morning, but had in the last week and it was spot on full as it normaly is.

I would like to thank the 2 people that stopped and asked if ok, out of the 70 or so that drove past in the 4 hrs I was stuck on the side of the road and waiting for a tow truck. Thanks must also go to the bus that drove past in excess of the speed limit and nearly hit my side mirror (no one coming the other way, so room for a bit of move over) and I cant forget to thank the people that were behind me during the incident, that after slowly driving through the plume of smoke, just gave me a disgusted look and kept going..... I did get to see lots of fast and furious cars with neon lights and big turbos go wisking through the night.

I am a bit concerned for my socket:

Dear Seven,
it has been over 17hrs since we last saw each other. Im very worried about you. I dont know why you had to leave like that. Things seemed to be good between us. I looked long and hard, and even called in the experts help. They sent in magnet, mirror and LED to no avail. Its almost as if you dont want to be found. I really do hope you are ok. Your family all miss you, especially your two closest brothers Six and Eight. In true family support your cousin Nine/ThirtyTwo has come in to help. In no way is he a replacement for you. He wants you back as much as anyone. Im more than happy to talk about any issues you may be dealing with. Please come home safe and sound.......:(


1 battery is fully charged, the other is almost done.....

Serge,you got off the road,you didn't hit anybody or anything and your safe,good job. Pat

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Originally Posted by Catmatt

Stop it, Stop it, Stop all this pontification.......the poor guy was innocently driving down the road and had a potential total engine run-away but.........it seems survived a catastrophic disaster.......

Yes he could have -
a) thrown in it neutral and risked a total uncontrolled over-speed (But as he said, he was in solid traffic and more looking out for the other road users {Well Done mate!!}

b) just happened to have a powder fire extingusher at hand and casually open the bonnet and fire it at the EXACT position while dodging peak hour traffic
c) or just happened to have the time to ignore all of his problems and decide to check his lift pump for leaks that might be aerating his fuel (Sic)

d) or wondering how many metres he should stand away from his vehicle when it revs itself to destruction

My God guys.....focus on the problem at hand and don't speculate on this potentially serious $$$$ problem

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I think you picked the wrong post(er) to quote. But in general I agree with the sentiment.

I just tried starting it. It turns over but wont start. I held the key for what i would call/counted 10 compressions (by ear). I did this 3 times. The 3rd time I depressed the throttle 3 times during.

No smoke or anything out the exhaust. No weird noises during turning over. No leaks developed after turning over (that I can see)

I just checked the dipstick. Now I may be wrong but it appears the level has dropped by about 3-4mm on the stick compared to when I last checked it yesterday. I just checked it after turning over :confused: The truck hasnt been moved since sunday morning. It is on level ground

still no sign of Seven :(

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Originally Posted by uninformed

I just tried starting it. It turns over but wont start. I held the key for what i would call/counted 10 compressions (by ear). I did this 3 times. The 3rd time I depressed the throttle 3 times during.

No smoke or anything out the exhaust. No weird noises during turning over. No leaks developed after turning over (that I can see)

I just checked the dipstick. Now I may be wrong but it appears the level has dropped by about 3-4mm on the stick compared to when I last checked it yesterday. I just checked it after turning over :confused: The truck hasnt been moved since sunday morning. It is on level ground

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Hold your foot flat down on the accelerator and crank it over until it starts (hopefully) - or at least until the oil light goes out.

If you can, do the above with the bonnet removed and the filler cap also off, to see if it is blowing out the filler.

I just did what Ben suggested: turned over with full throtle and oil filler cap removed. It was about 40 "compressions", oil light went out, nothing blowing out the filler. No sign of it firing. The battery started to fade so I have put on charge again

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Originally Posted by uninformed

I just checked the dipstick. Now I may be wrong but it appears the level has dropped by about 3-4mm on the stick compared to when I last checked it yesterday. I just checked it after turning over :confused: The truck hasnt been moved since sunday morning. It is on level ground

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Don't worry about that, that's the oil being pumped around your engine like it should be. It'll all come back when left to sit.

Did you disturb any injection pump wiring?

I had a 10mm socket go AWOL during an engine rebuild about 10 years back. Never found it and I was even paranoid enough to check the sump later on.