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    Land rover Haven't used a decent diff since day one.With the Salisbury they came close but then stuffed up with greased hubs with less distance between bearings and a collapsible
    spacer .If they had used a hypoid design with straddle mounted pinion with solid spacer steel instead of cheese there would be none of these ongoing issues .Even a LR tec or blind Freddie should be able to pick a housing bent enough to cause diff failures

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    I'm on my second rear diff now at 40, 000. It is certainly a problem that the dealers know about. The dealers will tell you anything, that's why we are so lucky to have this website for support

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    OK this is getting spooky,I've had a thanks from Isuzurover and I'm agreeing with Ancient Mariner,what the hell was in my corn flakes this morning. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat111 View Post
    I'm on my second rear diff now at 40, 000. It is certainly a problem that the dealers know about. The dealers will tell you anything, that's why we are so lucky to have this website for support
    I've had three problems with my TDCi,the clutch springs,the axle drive flanges and the adapter shaft,the crappy diff is perfect ,no backlash,grumbling noises nothing. Pat

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    Re: 3rd rear diff

    Update:

    Sorry for not posting yesterday but I got caught up doing other things. Today I went to Trivetts and did a road test/drive with one of the mechanics. Unfortunately during the 15 minute drive the diff did not once make a noise. How frustrating, to top it off I was made to feel like I did not know what I was talking about (even though I'm a professional driver and work in the transport industry)....
    They told me next time it's making the noises to bring it past. I told them it was making it on the way back from wollongong on Sunday. The mechanic said that maybe I have just been unlucky with the diffs until now and this one might be the one that lasts, he said the noise m hearing could be something else, even though it sounds the same as the last diff issue.


    Anyway, I'm lost as what to do at the moment.....trade in and buy a LC? Accc and try to get mediation and use my consumer rights?
    I'm waiting to see what I'll get as a trade in for mine. If it's decent I'm thinking the Toyota might be the safest long term option.
    Thoughts people?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    Apparently "I must have got a dodgy one".
    When I mentioned that there have been various people with the same problem he said he has not witnessed this diff issue with any of the defenders they sold first hand. He has seen many issues with leaks, a couple of rear axles, some bearings etc.
    When they drained the oil shards of metal came out in it.....
    It just seems the diff is set up incorrectly from factory

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    Doesn't matter if it's making a noise when they drive it or not,metal paste is normal,shards of metal aren't. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    Update:

    Sorry for not posting yesterday but I got caught up doing other things. Today I went to Trivetts and did a road test/drive with one of the mechanics. Unfortunately during the 15 minute drive the diff did not once make a noise. How frustrating, to top it off I was made to feel like I did not know what I was talking about (even though I'm a professional driver and work in the transport industry)....
    They told me next time it's making the noises to bring it past. I told them it was making it on the way back from wollongong on Sunday. The mechanic said that maybe I have just been unlucky with the diffs until now and this one might be the one that lasts, he said the noise m hearing could be something else, even though it sounds the same as the last diff issue.


    Anyway, I'm lost as what to do at the moment.....trade in and buy a LC? Accc and try to get mediation and use my consumer rights?
    I'm waiting to see what I'll get as a trade in for mine. If it's decent I'm thinking the Toyota might be the safest long term option.
    Thoughts people?


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    Man this really does my head in, I feel like calling trivitt myself!

    Thinking about it they are making money every time the diff breaks from Land Rover, that might explain why its not fixed.

    If it was me, I would take it.

    Have you emailed the owner/director/manager of trivetts?

    Fenders are awesome and you will love it, its just the diffs in the model suck.

    Take it to Davis Performance Landy's in Annangrove, PM me and ill call him for you and fill him in on the situation he can take a look and give you an experts opinion. He is one of the best landy places in OZ. 0296791978 Get him to fix it in a way that doesnt void warranty and send the bill to Trivetts.

    Have a good look at Australian Consumer Law website since 2011 consumer is much more protected.

    Personally I would chuck a LRA rover9 in it and never worry again
    And after what you have been through i wouldnt worry about your warranty being voided on the rest of your car, you are within your rights to fix something if they dont fix it and charge them for it imo but i could be wrong.

    As for going to a Cruiser, dont worry they have thier dramas too.

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    hi guys,

    so i have decided to take on Blackrangies advice. I have booked my car in at Bruce Davis automotive on the 15th of December.

    I will wait and see what his professional opinion is. If he finds a serious factory fault, which i assume and am adamant there is i will ask for a engineers report as well. I will then use the information he gives me to make a decision as to how to proceed moving forward.

    I want to take the opportunity to thank all of you for your help. Its been extremely helpful, but more importantly offered some peace of mind whilst trying to battle what seems the impossible.......

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    Update,

    Hi guys,

    So today I visited mr Davis. It was a real eye opener, and more importantly a proper diagnosis with someone who knows these vehicles inside out and can offer advise that seems realistic.

    So the diagnosis went as follows:
    -the noise I have been experiencing is not the new diff. It's a result of the centre diff lock needing new shims and something in there rattling. Back to Trivetts to get that looked at under warranty.......it has what Bruce calls excessive back lash as well.
    -the new diff looks as though it has been set up correctly. The first two were new units this one was a refurbished land rover diff. Bruce told me the refurbished ones are rebuilt correctly and I should be right with this one. He put the car on the hoist, one mechanic driving it and another using diagnostic ears on the diff axles etc.....nothing was heard and all looks good.

    So now I need to convince Trivetts that there is too much back lash and to have a look at the centre diff lock and the worn shims.....will be fun as the mechanic there seems to think that defenders are supposed to make all kinds of noises...

    I'll post up more after going to trivetss

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    Hopefully you have a nice written report to show them?

    Again out of warranty an ashcroft atb would be the best centre diff replacement.
    T-case problems can often sound like diff problems and vice versa.

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