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26th May 2005, 03:46 PM
#1
Front springs on a Deffie
Hi all
A mate was wondering what the visual symptoms of clapped springs may be. He took a look at them after the mechanic mentioned that they were tired out but he has noticed no problems in driving.
The springs are compressed for about the first 4 rows from the axle. I looked at mine and it is the same and i don't seem to have any probs with my front suspension.
The rear spings have even compression all the way up the spring.
Strangely the mechanic says all his original shocks are fine. His is a farm trayback and it has been working for a living ever since 1995. He would not be surprised if the springs are shot - but he can detect no sign of it himself so he is wondering why bother to replace them?
thanks for advice (how his original shocks are still hanging in there is anybody's guess - the truck has been bashing paddocks since day 1)
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26th May 2005, 04:18 PM
#2
once he replaces them he will notice the difference
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26th May 2005, 04:53 PM
#3
Just been talking to him on the phone. He has been told that the compression of the springs at the front is to allow stretching the other way when it goes in a ditch or something and they all have different properties front and back left and right to balance drivers weight etc. He has also been told to upgrade the shockies and he will certainly notice the difference then (as you say, Hiline).
He is looking at Monro gas struts and I am about to do a search on this site to find out more about them. I have read that Bilstein and Koni are the popular ones here but he is a man who needs to be convinced to spend the extra. Farmer, of the old school.
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26th May 2005, 05:00 PM
#4
what shocks are you running?
if you have bilsteins just take him for a drive....
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26th May 2005, 05:25 PM
#5
the only way to really tell if they have taken a set (sagged) is pull them out and measure their free length and compare them to new. Specs are in the manual or here
You can also measure the height between the bump stops, and if you ask very nicely, Andrew Richmond may be able to tell you if it is close to OK or not.
A wild arse guess would be that anything under about 70mm would be shot.
If he doesn't do long high speed distances, and it really is only a farm paddock basher, Monroes will be fine.
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26th May 2005, 05:31 PM
#6
I'm running Bilsteins (oil stains suggest I have problems with rhs rear which I am getting seen to - perhaps rebuilt). He has a trayback. I think he is prepared to take on board that new shocks are the way to go. He remains unconvinced about the extra cost of Bilsteins.
Another mate has told him that Monroe gas on his Def are doing well and they are as good as any of the more expensive brands. Don't know what to tell him. I'm happy with the Bilsteins (well I'm a bit PO'd that one has gone) and he knows someone else who is happy with the Monroes. His choice.
My search on this site has revealed one person muttering about their Monroes but nothing here agaisnt them I can find. People here seem very keen on their Bilsteins though.
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26th May 2005, 06:32 PM
#7
I'll endorse the Bilstein view but with a caveat.
Apologies for the detour.
The lower rear bushes and washers don't stand up to hard work. I replaced the standard gear with original Land Rover. The washers supplied were half the guage. On repeated extension they can't hack it.
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26th May 2005, 06:33 PM
#8
You can get Desert Fox for $99 Each...
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26th May 2005, 09:16 PM
#9
I don't subscribe to the view that the Monroe is as good as Koni or Bilstein, but it comes back to cost/benefit.
If you drive like I do, with the loads and distances, I start at Koni/Bilstein (I've been known to strip and revalve/rebuild the odd Koni, and when I get financial again, I plan to say hello to some Fox Shox :wink: ) but if your mate is only using it on the farm and to drive into town.....well, you get my drift.
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27th May 2005, 08:31 AM
#10
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The lower rear bushes and washers don't stand up to hard work. I replaced the standard gear with original Land Rover. The washers supplied were half the guage. On repeated extension they can't hack it.[/b][/quote]
I agree there OI, the crappy double lock nuts and small bushes on the Bilsteins need to be replaced (had them on my old Disco). The genuine jobbies are better in this regard, so are the Konis.
Paul [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
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