Mud Terrains on a daily driver practical ?

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Regards to 265's V 235's, I prefer the narrower tread. Wide tyres tend to aquaplane a bit off-road. Good example I have a mate with 265's on and we both attempted a slippery hill. He took about 3-4 goes (with rear locker) and climbed it wheres I did it in one go with my 235's (with my rear only in as a fair comparison). My arguement is that narrower tyres allow you to bit into the terrain easier than wider options.

People may beg to differ, but tyres are a personal prefernece and what works for one doesn't for another. If you are happier with the size you have, replace them with the same is all I can say.

Trav[/quote]

I've yet to have an issure with the 265 off road in fact in the same situation had to take over a mates Def with 750/16 tyres and drive it up for him (you can't get narrower than these). I would be leaning towards driver attitude on the day/experience, you may be better at picking the line than your mate?

Tyres are personal for sure, and I have over the years almost every combination possible even Dunlop Adventures, were they a sad tyre, Pirelli FD44 not much better, I've not used Cooper tyres yet.

A mate of mine put on Goodyear MT/R's at Easter for our trip to Tassie and he says they are great allthough wander a little at speed (Stage 1 V8) but a good choice for him so far (BTW he was only one out of 5 cars to get bogged in sand hills but he blamed me, I was in front though).

Cheers
Bryce

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>tyres averaging 55 - 60,000km per set.

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8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O stuff that for usage :evil: :evil:

AT for me 100 - 110 k's per set [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
much better[/b][/quote]

Even when I did run A/T on '76 Rangie that was impossible mileage to achieve, you don't drive hard enough - you are alowed to let the pressure down you know :roll: :roll: :wink: youv'e got to get off road more :oops:

A/T are limited in serious stuff, M/T's poor man diff lock by comparison 235 or 265/285, oils aint oils :wink: I've seen it too many times always helping the A/T guy out or up when things get realy sticky. :evil:

Cheers
Bryce 8)[/b][/quote]

i run pirelli scorpians AT on my 130 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
yes i do get 110,000k's on them [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
and i also do go off road in them, but mainly when its dry :wink:
beleive me i do drive hard :wink: :wink:

i run pirelli scorpians AT on my 130 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
yes i do get 110,000k's on them [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
and i also do go off road in them, but mainly when its dry :wink:
beleive me i do drive hard :wink: :wink:[/quote]

I had a pretty good idea you do go hard [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] . I'd kill to get that milageage, I'm going to "probably" "maybe" try Coopers on the Rangie theyre almost close to worn out.

I did have Pirelli Scorpians on once, 205/16 on the old 2 door, they were a shocker, slipped all over the place on wet clay, in fact drove of the track onto some wet grass had to winch up slope to get back on (private property went to check out a dam for ducks). Eventualy had them replaced under warranty delaminated internaly, but I took the credit and put on Dunlop Adventures, they were worse half way through couldn't keep wheels balanced, shot them for Michelin...staked and tore these to pieces between Innaminka & Birdsville got home on $25 2nd hand tyres. Went to BFG under warranty exchange through Boral (at the time agents for both BFG & Michelin) and haven't been away from BFG since with no major issues other than 50-60 thou wear, but I do change normaly well before their use by date leaving 10,000 to 15/20 thou left on them, just me :!: a waste I know I usually sell for $120 to $150 used set [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] good for trailers or cheap for rego check one guy, and he still has them on BTW.

Cheers
Bryce

Highline,

I forgot to qualify that the Michelins I dragged home on the roof, wrote a nice letter to Boral complaining about their "shoddy quality" tyres. MD made appt to see me and cases, we got into heated discussion I shouldn't have been out there on Michelins he was trying to feed me, but my comeback "you make 4x4 tryes for a 4x4, branded Michelin 4x4 on the wall, where am I supposed to drive them in Double Bay :evil: :evil: , the long and short of it was they gave me a set of BFG A/T's for $150 set 4 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] , which I was happy about the Michelins had only been on for about 6,000km's.

Cheers
Bryce

<span style="color:green">speaking of not being able to keep tyres balanced.....


has anyone else had any trouble with wheel balance problems with the general grabbers(original equipment)?
one of them is 400gms out of balance......almost half a kilo!!

the others arent far behind....

they were ok to 40,000kms.....but the last 20,000kms are starting to give me the willies.....

would anyone know if warranty covers this?
i have also got scalloping happening which wont help the problem......

other than that.....60,000kms and only look just over half worn.....
and i corner hard...(bad habits die hard)</span>

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Originally Posted by RoverOne

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Regards to 265's V 235's, I prefer the narrower tread. Wide tyres tend to aquaplane a bit off-road. Good example I have a mate with 265's on and we both attempted a slippery hill. He took about 3-4 goes (with rear locker) and climbed it wheres I did it in one go with my 235's (with my rear only in as a fair comparison). My arguement is that narrower tyres allow you to bit into the terrain easier than wider options.

People may beg to differ, but tyres are a personal prefernece and what works for one doesn't for another. If you are happier with the size you have, replace them with the same is all I can say.

Trav

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I've yet to have an issure with the 265 off road in fact in the same situation had to take over a mates Def with 750/16 tyres and drive it up for him (you can't get narrower than these). I would be leaning towards driver attitude on the day/experience, you may be better at picking the line than your mate?

Tyres are personal for sure, and I have over the years almost every combination possible even Dunlop Adventures, were they a sad tyre, Pirelli FD44 not much better, I've not used Cooper tyres yet.

A mate of mine put on Goodyear MT/R's at Easter for our trip to Tassie and he says they are great allthough wander a little at speed (Stage 1 V8) but a good choice for him so far (BTW he was only one out of 5 cars to get bogged in sand hills but he blamed me, I was in front though).

Cheers
Bryce[/quote]

I'm a bit uncertain about unknown brands. Mate has a set of 265/75 Savero M/T's on his Rangie and hasn't had a punture yet and only cost him $140 a tyre (gets trade price, he's a mechanic and get then dirt cheap). Plus they have done about 60K and got about 6mm tread left. 265's are a bit more common than 235's I have to agree.

Why I like the 235's is that I can have the option of fitting them to the steel Rangie 16x6 rims (biggest tyre you can fit to them) and run smaller tyres around town if I like.

I was considring 285's but I can see the 255's being a better option mainly I don't have to buy another set of rims, have them offset, etc...

Trav

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Originally Posted by RoverOne

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Regards to 265's V 235's, I prefer the narrower tread. Wide tyres tend to aquaplane a bit off-road. Good example I have a mate with 265's on and we both attempted a slippery hill. He took about 3-4 goes (with rear locker) and climbed it wheres I did it in one go with my 235's (with my rear only in as a fair comparison). My arguement is that narrower tyres allow you to bit into the terrain easier than wider options.

People may beg to differ, but tyres are a personal prefernece and what works for one doesn't for another. If you are happier with the size you have, replace them with the same is all I can say.

Trav

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I've yet to have an issure with the 265 off road in fact in the same situation had to take over a mates Def with 750/16 tyres and drive it up for him (you can't get narrower than these). I would be leaning towards driver attitude on the day/experience, you may be better at picking the line than your mate?

Tyres are personal for sure, and I have over the years almost every combination possible even Dunlop Adventures, were they a sad tyre, Pirelli FD44 not much better, I've not used Cooper tyres yet.

A mate of mine put on Goodyear MT/R's at Easter for our trip to Tassie and he says they are great allthough wander a little at speed (Stage 1 V8) but a good choice for him so far (BTW he was only one out of 5 cars to get bogged in sand hills but he blamed me, I was in front though).

Cheers
Bryce

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I'm a bit uncertain about unknown brands. Mate has a set of 265/75 Savero M/T's on his Rangie and hasn't had a punture yet and only cost him $140 a tyre (gets trade price, he's a mechanic and get then dirt cheap). Plus they have done about 60K and got about 6mm tread left. 265's are a bit more common than 235's I have to agree.

Why I like the 235's is that I can have the option of fitting them to the steel Rangie 16x6 rims (biggest tyre you can fit to them) and run smaller tyres around town if I like.

I was considring 285's but I can see the 255's being a better option mainly I don't have to buy another set of rims, have them offset, etc...

Trav[/quote]

I'm with you on Branded items especially tyres, unless they have a track record/reputation I wouldn't touch them, price doesn't come into it they are the most important purchase you'll make, they get you from A to B safely or otherwise.

Branded products always have a dealer close if claims/problems arise and matching sizes. A lot of cheaper tyres have balancing issues as well, some Korean tyres have been bone heads.

I would never conciously put on 285's for that reason, that you have to buy offset rims, my Rangie has them, but I bought it that way complete with five 245/70/16 BFG A/T on Classic Alloy Rims with about 20,000 left on them, they look a bit dinkey on a 2" lifted & flared Rangie, so will only get used in between worn out muddies and getting the cash.

Cheers
Bryce 8)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>265's are a bit more common than 235's I have to agree.
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Umm, other way around, Trav. :wink:

Outside any metro area, virtually most all farm/work vehicles use 235/85/16's.
Any tyre service in the country has stocks of 235/85's.
The Saveros seem pretty popular up this way. IIRC, they are made by GT in Indonesia. The local piggers thinking is that a stake has no respect for how exxy a tyre is, so you are better off staking a cheapy than a BFG.

OK when the time comes I'll get some 235/85 16 BFG M/T's.

That way I can see how I like 'em. Besides if Mrs Vlad doesn't know 60,000kms isn't a good wear rate then it doesn't matter.... :wink: