A similar situation could be that with wheel spacers - legal if factory fitted, not otherwise. But that, I suspect is not in the ADRs, just all state regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
John
A similar situation could be that with wheel spacers - legal if factory fitted, not otherwise. But that, I suspect is not in the ADRs, just all state regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
John
This is precisely the beraucratic nightmare that Federal legislation is supposed to get rid of. If it's ADR compliant then it is, and the States should have no say in it. It makes my blood boil that something that's legal and acceptable in Victoria can cost me upwards of $1500 in NSW. I'm referring to heavy vehicles here, but the principle is the same. NSW signed up to the NHVR system, but then choose to totally ignore it when it suits them. They know that most people won't be able to take a couple of days off to go to Court in another State to defend against over zealous Highway Patrol thugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDNSW
Back to the lights issue. How is it illegal to fit them? Usage on the highway might be not ok, but if they aren't turned on then so what.
I reckon we all are too compliant. I don't know what else we can be though, given that our pollies don't give a stuff once they have our votes. FmRicky Muir wasn't such a dweeb I'd write to him to get a Senate Enquiry going on the road law situation.
OK, vested interest, I have to declare that in the last 24 months I've clocked up over 400,000 km, and as such am a bit of a target. But t stinks.
Those vehicles I mentioned are sold in every State and Territory. Both also sell accessory light bars to augment the standard, and they are fitted above the windscreen. I know trucks are just a bloody nuisance to most people, but take a look when you're out and about. These light bars can have six or even more lights attached, and that over and above the extra lights fitted to the bull bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by drivesafe
Anyone remember Ned and his Neddy? The trucks that Ken Maynard drew have nothing on the ones that are around today.
Of course, in the old days one would see the 'bloom' of the approaching vehicles lights before they crested, and dip. It was common courtesy. These days not so much. People these days think that there is no need to dip if they are on divided road, or behind. And today's lights are much brighter than the old sealed beams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron IIA
From QLD Roads--
Driving lamps may be fitted above the roof line. Thedriving lamps must be fitted to the front half of thevehicle, when measured from the front to therearmost point of the vehicle.
This instruction only applies to light vehicles in Queensland, excluding heavy vehicles, motor bikes andmotor trikes. Check to ensure the fitting of driving lamps complies with other jurisdictions requirementsbefore travelling interstate.
Would be a bit interesting fitting lights above the "roofline" on a motorbike! :D Maybe a couple of light bars tec screwed on the helmet? :D :D
compliance by manufacturer has precedence over local regulations. not all vehicles comply with ADR to the letter of the law.
life goes on.
Letter of compliance can e issued by manufacturer.
When I worked at a GM dealer in 80-90's they had compliance specification for each model so that they could issue the initial registration or supply documents to RTA when issues arose with interstate registration.
My boss told me this week about a lights fitted to new small Toyota. after much complaints about the wiring at the end of the instructions was not suitable for on road use.-------
work mates had issues with a bike-they use ratio of height above seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by schuy1
keep telling him to by a pizza delivery bike with the weather proof cab.
Seems to work for the cyclists around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by schuy1
There has often been a lot of discussion about light bar legality.
It is pretty much now common knowlage that they have now been deemed legal.
Under the old law of driving lights having to be mounted in pairs, did effectivly make them illegal.
The laws have since been changed and this also applies to all additional lights.
A maximum of four, but they no longer have to be in pairs.
Now the topic of light bars being mounted on the roof still brings up debate.
I have found the answer.
It is legal to mount a light bar on the roof in all states except NSW and WA.
My source for this information comes from here
UNSEALED 4X4 ISSUE 025
Have a scroll through. There is a story on lighting near the end.