Would you buy a RR with a P76 engine?

51jay · 23rd November 2005, 10:27 PM

If it was registered you should have no problem reregistering it.
The car and the engine predate most of the restrictions applying to later models

Disregard most of the facts posted in any forum and do the obvious thing ie call up the rego office and ask them what you need to register a 77 Rangie with a Leyland P76 motor. I am about 99% certain you will need a Qld safety certificate and a receipt to show you have got 3rd party Ins. and thats it
My 1980 Rangie has had a P76 in it since 1985, its getting a bit tired now but still tows ths Skyline racecar with no problems. When not towing it seems to average about 15 to 18mpg
Incidently neither of my Rangies have an Aus compliance plate though they were both sold new in Aus. It has not caused any problems with transfer of reg.

**Noki 3.9** · 23rd November 2005, 10:32 PM

i have seen 3 roadyworthy places, one is able to do compliace plates and they all said i need a c/p. but i will take your advise and call qld trans ...thanks... brad

**walker** · 23rd November 2005, 10:33 PM

It's funny, some big things you think they would pick, they don't and the small things they do.

When i bought my '77 Rangie earlier this year, I did not notice that the engine no. on the rego did not match the engine no. until I got it home. The seller had told me he put another engine in it about 2 years ago.

I was very worried they would not give me a RWC with the conflicting numbers but they did not even mention it.

**Noki 3.9** · 23rd November 2005, 10:34 PM

I have seen 3 road worthy inspectors one of which is able to do compliance plates, all three said it will need a c/p , but I will take your advise and call QLD trans... Thanks... Brad

**Noki 3.9** · 23rd November 2005, 10:41 PM

The Rangie that I bought yesterday is on Ebay, its a 1984 Hiline for $2200 It had restamped engine numbers and the guy doing the roady wouldnt touch it, so I took it to QLD trans and they refered me to the Police, I went back to the seller and got my money back after we had a little discussion. It went straight back on ebay today. So buyers beware. It has a dodgy smokey engine

**DaveG** · 24th November 2005, 09:57 AM

I had no problems registering my 1980 Rangie with a 4.4 in Vic a few years ago.

The inspector picked up that the engine wasn't original but was satisfied with my explanation that it was only a slightly larger version of the original and was made by the same manufacturer [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

Cheers

**dungarover** · 24th November 2005, 04:32 PM

I just fitted a 4.4 P76 to Thomas, great engine does run a little warm off-road (needs a radaiator clean) but nothig too serious.

I still have to change my engine nyuumbers prior to me having the rego re-newed. I can'tr see the issue, Leyland was Rover in the old days, same manufacturer, no adaptor plates so it really shouldn't need a compliance plate.

Will soon find out.

Trav

**abaddonxi** · 24th November 2005, 06:17 PM

Sorry, wasn't so much saying that it would definitely be trouble.

More asking why buy something that could be a whole bunch of trouble when there don't seem to be a shortage of decent RRs around the place going for a pretty good price.

If someone was trying to sell me a car that had all kinds of mods done and no engineers cert. I'd first ask if the reason the fella was selling the car was that they couldn't get certs.

Some things you can't get registered without it.

If you do a mod that needs certs and don't get it done on the spot it makes me think that either they did it and didn't bother - trouble in the future. They did it and couldn't get a cert - trouble. They did it and couldn't be bothered - what kind of trouble have they set you up for if they can't be bothered to get someone to check it over and see that it is a safe mod?

If you buy it and do it yourself or whatever at least you know what kind of stupid things you're doing.

I'm stupid enough on my own, I don't want to risk my life on someone else's stupidity.

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Cheers
Simon

**duff** · 10th December 2005, 01:30 AM

I ran a P76 engine block in my SD1 rover for years.

If you just use the Block, and refit all the rover heads, timing cover, inlet manifold etc,,,,and the stamped number somehow change's(TIC).you will fool all but the most interested of rover owners.
(just make shore your old 3.5 that donated the number can never turn up later )

ops:
My girl past roadworthy after roadworthy and umpteen Tech inspections for the street drags....no one ever guessed. The manifold adapter plates and spare head bolt holes should give it away,,, but again only the most interested would even notice.
The heads on the standard P76 had puny valves anyway so post 82 rover heads are just the treat they need. the rangie timing cover lets you keep all the standard ancillary's, and it bolts staight on anyway. The oil flow to the heads is reversed on the P76,,the oil is pumped up the push rods and splash feeds the pedastals. you can simply run external oil gelleries under the valley cover and drill the block. the gallerys are cast into the rear of the block but are blank.
But I can assure you the rover heads dont suffer at all just having the oil pumped up the 76 push rods and backwards into the rocker shafts

The mod is a very cheap way to get a substantial power increase over the early 3.5 lt
198HP before you put the more advanced rover heads and stuff on.
Cooling can raise its head as a problem,, But fitting an XD/XF ford cross flow radiator was often used to fix it when I was a bit younger

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