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    Good evening erudite gents,

    Does someone know which way the drop arm points (parallel to the chassis rail?) with a 3 bolt power steering box in a RRC when then steering is in the straight ahead position (box travel in the middle)?

    Haynes shows the arm pointing out from parallel to the chassis rail maybe 10 degrees. Assume same for PS?

    TIA, DL

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    G`day ,

    i don`t really understand the reason of the question.

    On ours i would have said the drop/pitman looks parallel by eye maybe not with a straight edge but i wouldn`t have thought as much as 10 .

    The arm can go on i guess four ways ( without too much thought but could be more/less ) but only one way is correct and it`s not like you can move it one spline at a time and if the question is to do with alignment i would have thought the rest will make the arm follow .

    Haynes is better than nothing but very good at leveling the right wonky table .

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Good evening erudite gents,

    Does someone know which way the drop arm points (parallel to the chassis rail?) with a 3 bolt power steering box in a RRC when then steering is in the straight ahead position (box travel in the middle)?

    Haynes shows the arm pointing out from parallel to the chassis rail maybe 10 degrees. Assume same for PS?

    TIA, DL
    Pretty sure that is correct Dave, 10 degrees to the left if my memory is right.
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    Haynes shows it about 10 degrees (no more) to the right looking down (would be to the left looking up ! ) for a manual box.

    The reason I'm asking this is because the one I had in there started leaking fluid out of both seals big time and I had a spare from Dungarover.

    Just plonked it in and the lock to lock seemed different. As PLR says it should be the same.

    Maybe I'll just disconnect the drag link and see where the middle really is.

    Thanks guys,

    DL

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    the sweep of the arm from a powersttering to non powersteeing box is the same,

    the number of turns lock to lock isnt

    with everything bolted up you shouldnt hit the mechanical stops of the box, if you do you can damage the box if you have it on the mechanical locks and the wheel stops havent engaged when the wheels try to turn more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Haynes shows it about 10 degrees (no more) to the right looking down (would be to the left looking up ! ) for a manual box.

    The reason I'm asking this is because the one I had in there started leaking fluid out of both seals big time and I had a spare from Dungarover.

    Just plonked it in and the lock to lock seemed different. As PLR says it should be the same.

    Maybe I'll just disconnect the drag link and see where the middle really is.

    Thanks guys,

    DL

    G`day ,

    that`s an interesting concept but i think the only way to make right left would be to turn the vehicle upside down .

    I had a look in the Factory manual and if the drawing is to scale the centre line of the drop/pitman arm would give 10 degrees with the centre line of the input shaft and box body and the outside edge ( right ) of the chassis would also give 10 degrees with the centre line of the drop/pitman arm . In both cases the arm is to the right .

    When the steering is straight ahead there is a centre line through the drop/pitman arm which goes through the centre of the adjuster shaft and the center of the drop arm ball joint .

    The book says this happens when the box is centered and the dead splines are aligned .

    I have one of those boxes with seal leaks like yours , i put new seals in but one still leaked so i put a seal in the original box that was a reco 20+ yrs ago so that`s been good all up for better than 20 yrs and still holding fluid today .

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    Thanks Dave for the heads up.

    Thanks Peter for looking it up. Haynes shows that centre line for the manual box.

    I'll have a look at it in the next day or so.

    DL

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    In the straight ahead position the arm (looking down) is about 5 degrees to the left.

    (PLR... if I was looking up from below that would be to my right)

    Anyway a simple drag link adjustment will get it back to spec.

    Aren't both drag link ends RH thread? So one end needs to be disconnected to alter the length?

    Thanks guys, DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    In the straight ahead position the arm (looking down) is about 5 degrees to the left.

    (PLR... if I was looking up from below that would be to my right)

    Anyway a simple drag link adjustment will get it back to spec.

    Aren't both drag link ends RH thread? So one end needs to be disconnected to alter the length?

    Thanks guys, DL
    G`day DL ,

    like a i said an interesting concept and i`ll take it that your pulling my leg .

    It`s a right hand drive vehicle and the orientation of the viewer could give a few different directions .

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    Yhe drag link is LH thread at one end so you just adjust it the same as the track rod.

    Cheers DL

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