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Some other suggestions - I may have included something you or someone else has already mentioned, if so I apologise.
Wheel bearings. Excessive caster due to worn bushes, bent components (radius arm, axle housing, chassis mount points etc) or lifted suspension.
Yes all the things you guys have pointed to that I have not yet checked are now well and truely on my to do list for this week https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .
And yes she has had a two(2) inch lift (the Rover not the wife :wink: ) so am treating that as sus for now. However I have all this cars history so I know lift work was done by a good company down here.
Oh well I have a good way to mix paint tins for now :oops: .
All I can say is I'm glad I'm not the only one, my disco series I has started doing the dame thing at about 90 km and most pronounced on a mild left hand turn?
Everything seems tight underneath, although I do have to put a new steering damper on it - but - the damper was buggered before the "death rattle" started?
When, not if, I track it down I will let you know.
Cheers Blythe
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Originally posted by blitz
All I can say is I'm glad I'm not the only one, my disco series I has started doing the dame thing at about 90 km and most pronounced on a mild left hand turn?
Everything seems tight underneath, although I do have to put a new steering damper on it - but - the damper was buggered before the "death rattle" started?
When, not if, I track it down I will let you know.
Cheers Blythe
<span style="color:blue">buckled left hand front rim.....?</span>
My 30yo 1 series used to do it when you went over 100kph and hit a bump - the front end was like a shopping trolly wheel doing 10kph. The problem built on itself and the only way to stop it was to brake and slow right down. It reminded me a lot of the occilations you can get in the steering of some motor bikes that end up putting you on the ground.
I never found out what it was but my series 3 only being 18yo never did it so I assumed that it was all the little bits of slack in the steering/front suspension of the series 1 combined to cause the problem - I suggest all of the above but a decent steering damper should do a lot to improve things as should tightening everything up and replacing worn stuff.
<span style="color:blue">the preloads on the swivel hub bearings will cause these symptoms if they are too loose....</span>
How are you checking the bushes. have you tried dropping out the panhard rod for a look as these generally flog the bolts aswell and are ussually the cause of bad vibration. steering dampeners simply mask the problem so its best to find the real cause. same as front control arm bushes they need more than a visual inspection, the need to be mone with a big bar or dropped out for a good look.
Yes I have droped out panhard rod and checked all bushes as far as i can tell the polly bushes are ok so are bolts.
thanxs for the tip https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .
so far it looks like its the wheels or the front prop shaft uni .
but just to confirm the book sez the pre load is 2.5-3 lbs is this ok? or have they made a type-o????.
<span style="color:blue">no...thats not a typo...it sounds about right....
its just that we used to set them up a bit firmer....
but we never used the scales....just learnt to do it by feel....
and it used to make a huge difference....
i did aces up the same way if you want some feedback on any difference
it may have made....but he also fitted a new steering damper a few days earlier....
maybe you can borrow a steering damper off someone to see if it makes a difference......
that was one of the best methods of confirming our diagnosis before spending
the customers dollars on parts....
anyway....if you swap dampers and it doesnt make a difference i can guide through
the procedure of checking and adjusting the preloads if you like.....</span>
Happy new year all.
Well thank you for the offer of a guide through on the preloads https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ as that may be the problem yet.
The new year is starting out good it seems , today I took the front prop shaft out and went for a spin only to find the judder still in play. so then I adjusted the right front tie rod out by 8 turns went for test drive and...........the judder was not so harsh.
so I think the last wheel alinement was done poorly :cry: so I will get It done again down in the city this time!.
however I will take you up on the preload guide through as I no my luck,better to have and not need than to need and not have :wink: .
Thank you all , I have lernt alot from you and now I can drive the Rangie without it acting like it wants to be entered in a rodeo 8O .