Thread: Td5 Vs Puma Economy (Gav)

Keeping in mind I am doing EVERYTHING possible to negatively impact my fuel economy (roof rack, bigger tyres, all the extra weight and less than ideal cruising speed), the tdci 90 managed the following:


Most was 6th gear cruising at 100-110(ish). Most was on the flat, but some was across some dirt / corrugated and bulldust tracks. I agree re aerodynamics of a block of flats.
Could it be better... yes.
Does it bother me... not really.
Biggest issue is my fuel storage... 60L tank in the 90 equates to a range of about 400km. Bump that out to approx 550 with a jerry can on the rear bar.

I just did over 2000 ks in our heavily loaded Puma 110 with four people on board, towing our 1100kg camper trailer, often travelling at 110 km/h on the motorway sections of the Pacific Highway between Sydney and Brisbane, and averaged 13.6 l/100 kmh. I thought that was pretty good good. If I had slowed down to 100 km/h I reckon that would have dropped into the 12s. Unladen, pottering about, it averages about 10.5-11 l/100 kmh. I also think that's pretty good.

Some good info for my future decision...... Td5 vs Puma.

I think the sound proofing and better ability to have a conversation with the missus will have me eventually getting a Puma though

Originally Posted by Robmacca

Some good info for my future decision...... Td5 vs Puma.

I think the sound proofing and better ability to have a conversation with the missus will have me eventually getting a Puma though

But maybe the lack of soundproofing and nice exhaust note of a five cylinder may bring more aural pleasure than said conversation with missus.
On a more serious note we did 30,000 k's towing a camper trailer over some of the harshest tracks and desert sands with tyres down to single digits at times, and averaged 12.5 lt per 100 in a td5

I think the six gears in the Puma are a major advantage. On the highway it is only ticking over at about 2100 revs at 100 kmh in 6th. Off road low first is really slow, and I sometimes have to accelerate while going downhill, plus the anti-stall keeps it going by raising the revs to about 900.
Note that mine has a Steinbauer chip, which gives up to 20 percent boost.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I think the six gears in the Puma are a major advantage. On the highway it is only ticking over at about 2100 revs at 100 kmh in 6th. Off road low first is really slow, and I sometimes have to accelerate while going downhill, plus the anti-stall keeps it going by raising the revs to about 900.
Note that mine has a Steinbauer chip, which gives up to 20 percent boost.

Lets clarify...

TD5 in 5th at 100km/h is also revving at 2100 rpm..

And Anti-Stall is also a standard feature in a TD5

Originally Posted by Tombie

Lets clarify...

TD5 in 5th at 100km/h is also revving at 2100 rpm..

And Anti-Stall is also a standard feature in a TD5

Isnt it more like 2300+ in a Defender with 1.4 TC, in a disco its about 2150@100kph ?

The Td5 would be my choice by a long shot, as they sound magic with the right exhaust on them. Dare I say it, but a Ford Ranger 5 cyl and 6 speed box against an LT230 would be a nice setup if a little technical to do.. I hear more negative than positive about the Puma engines.. and they sound as tho they lack the get up and go even if they do.. Hard choice! Buy what you like and want and love it!