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Thread: Series 2 Discovery V8 vs TD5

  1. #11
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    Go the V8

    No turbo lag, cheaper to buy and service and they sound a ****load better than a diesel.

    Fot outback travelling, look a a diesel as you will get the 800 kms range out of them and more with a long range tank.

    My 3.5 EFI Rangie gets about 18l/100kms (got 400kms out of the 76 ltr tank on a run with about 10 liters to spare) I assume that the 4.0 V8 Disco will beat that with a much more sophisicated engine mangement system.

    But Diesel/Petrol is a personal choice and you either one or the other, that's it!!

    Whatever you buy, enjoy it.

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    Re resale value.
    Of course the resale value is terrible at present with petrol at the price it is.
    But exactly the same happened in the last fuel crises.

    Ford even discontinued the V8 in XF and EA because nobody was buying them. Holden discontinued the V8 in Commodore.
    If petrol goes under a dollar it will be very different.
    I have a friend with a diesel Pajero who could not get a reasonable price a couple of years ago.

    But now is now and it may be an opportunity to get a V8 cheaper than at any other time.

    At least we crusty old codgers remember times when house prices go down and petrol goes up , and know that nothing lasts forever.
    Regards Philip A

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    I don’t think resale come in to it to much if you by a Land Rover your more than half way there. Just keep adding mods on and build the 4x4 to how you want it. The cost involved in changing a 4x4 modified is always hard to get back. Once build is completed you wont want to buy anything else, 8) .

    But if you dont modify then anything that has been looked after properly will resale to the right price.

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    Thanks

    Thanks, it seems that the argument revolves around fuel usage, and at no time has anyone said to put the V8 on gas (Not sure why)

    :roll: It was mentioned that the TD5 could be upgraded to 160-170kw, and I know that the V8 (4.6) starts at this figure. Does anyone know what the expected life span of a TD5 would be if it does receive a 60-70% power increase?

    I love the sound of a V8 , BUT the 5 cylinder also has a great sound and yes turbo whistle is grand.

    My mate has a Rangie and on our last trip, I was getting 16 litres per 100kms :? and he was getting 19 l/100km. We were both towing trailers however mine had a larger frontal area. Off the high way where the wind resistance was not a factor my fuel dropped to 11 l/100km whilst his stayed the same. (No longer tow that trailer) My engine 2.5 Tdi, his 3.9 V8.

    As I intend to keep the car for a long time, (everything else has gone soft) do I use the money saved and put the V8 on gas, (yes will use more fuel but cheaper to run per km) and if it is on gas is there anyone who makes sill tanks for the series two? Or bite the bullet, wear the higher cost at the start and have lower running costs.
    :roll:
    I spoke to Rover Tech today and the servicing costs are on a par,

    So now it comes down to reliability? 8O And how bad are the faults, if any, and can they be easily prevented?

    Due to the fact that I have three kids and I am after the 3 point centre seatbelt on the rear seat. The series 2 is probably the only vehicle that I would consider as an upgrade from the series 1. As for the rest of the Jap vehicles, the only one with live axles front and rear (with the 3 point seatbelt) is the 100 series Landcruiser and I do believe that the one in my club has broken more front diffs than I have. In fact on the last QAFWDC Country meeting held at Blackbutt, 4 front diffs were broken by this brand (oh what a feeling) and why would you consider the rest?

    Well I have been enjoying this and thanks for all the info, it seems that the best way to find out is to drive them and feel the differance by the seat of my pants

    Thanks heaps

    Danny
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    Re: Thanks

    Originally posted by DiscoDan

    Due to the fact that I have three kids and I am after the 3 point centre seatbelt on the rear seat.
    Sounds to me like you should spend as many hundreds of dollars as it costs to put a racing harness in for kid number three and spend the money you save on trips away.



    Cheers
    Simon

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    Checked that

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Sounds to me like you should spend as many hundreds of dollars as it costs to put a racing harness in for kid number three and spend the money you save on trips away[/b][/quote]

    Checked that out with Vanquip, they don't fit that type of belt to a wagon as nil parcel tray, however now not so worried about finding a 7 seater

    Danny
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    Have a chat to your local automotive engineer.

    http://www.sae-a.com.au/contact.htm

    In NSW I would look on the RTA website, call one of the thirty or so listed automotive engineers who are approved for these type of mods, get them to sort it out.

    I looked at the Queensland Transport site and that was a waste of time.

    Next idea might be a company that modifies cars for the disabled. Just their kind of job.

    I went through similar for baby seat anchor points in the 130 twin cab.




    Oh, and go the TD5.



    Simon

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    Originally posted by abaddonxi
    Oh, and go the TD5.



    Simon
    Ditto. Went from Driving V8's all my (licenced) life to a 02 TD5 - love it.
    Had a 96 V8 Disco, great car, nice sound, good power etc. terrible economy, woeful resale (like all LR).

    I swear by the TD5, (not at it). For the distance you get out of a tank it's a no brainer. Fill her up before a trip and forget about it. It's not all about economy either. if you've got a LR, you need a piggy bank whether its an V8 or a TD5

    The TD5 has oodles of power and will sit on high sppeds all day. I think the turbo lag thing is overstated as well. it's not tht bad. It is nice to have that big kick of power immediately, when you want it, but nothing you can't manage. I have 5 children, (3 littlies) and the rear seats and middle seat belts are magic - especially off road, and I use mine as a daily driver and hammer it on weekends.

    The D2's are poles apart from the 1. You won't know yourself. But like someone said - "take both for a good drive and decide what you like, and what you want it for."

    Good Luck... :wink:

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    Ok, for my situation, we are looking for a V8, either a D2 or P38A. Here's why. The purchase cost is lower for the V8, as are the service costs. It will be my wifes car and will not do huge km, however, the km it does do will all be highway speeds so fuel economy will not be as bad as if it was around town stuff. We have a Rangie with a 4BD1 which we use for touring and trips to fraser and the like which gets better fuel economy than a TD5 and is already kitted out for touring.

    Anyone disagree with my logic?

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    no, i cant fault it

    sounds like an excellent idea...
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