Defender double cardan front propshaft

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Originally Posted by uninformed

Why?

BTW thats not a LR output flange .... or gearbox....and youve got double bearing in that front output housing [thumbsupbig]

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Two outa three ain't bad [bighmmm] ,no room in the front .A 95 defender shouldn't need a DC shaft and I don't like the idear of a sledge hammer ready to pound the crap outa the gear box given half a chance. The Ford U bolt ends reduce the mass, give more working clearance and renewing a Uni is an easy job:thumbsup:

Noel

[QUOTE=Ancient Mariner;2795164]T a sledge hammer ready to pound the crap outa the gear box /QUOTE]

Was it a thread on the Isuzu forum, someone went to inspect MSA boxes for sale to find bits of the casing knocked out? Makes sense in light of your comment.

Found an ebay example of the Ford u-bolt for sale, the vendor saying the 1330 and 1350 yolk to suit were also available. I'm guessing this is what you show in the photo, and at first sight it looks fragile, but I guess you wouldn't have it if it weren't stronger than the LRover set up (plus lots of free space to work on it). Is it a straight forward swap over?

Thanks for another interesting insight.

Early this morning I sent off an email enquiring about a Tom Woods unit to Off-Road Konection - Your off-road part, accessory, wheel & tyre speciality store. No reply yet. They all say on their web sites 'contact us' but when you do they do not get back to you. Seems to be a trend not to reply and I wonder why they even bother putting 'contact us' on their web pages.

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Originally Posted by Kidbeen

Early this morning I sent off an email enquiring about a Tom Woods unit to Off-Road Konection - Your off-road part, accessory, wheel & tyre speciality store. No reply yet. They all say on their web sites 'contact us' but when you do they do not get back to you. Seems to be a trend not to reply and I wonder why they even bother putting 'contact us' on their web pages.

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Phone them!!

The telephone is still the best way to contact a business.

Or email Tom direct.
He does answer emails, and the phone too! [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by rick130

Phone them!!

The telephone is still the best way to contact a business.

Or email Tom direct.
He does answer emails, and the phone too! [emoji23]

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Is that the business of Tom Woods? Thought his business was based overseas.

I believe that Tom Woods is USA based... Maybe allow a day or two due to time zones...

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Originally Posted by Kidbeen

Is that the business of Tom Woods? Thought his business was based overseas.

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Phone Jeep Konnection or if you have no joy, contact Tom directly in Utah.
He's a really nice bloke and is super fast getting product out.

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Originally Posted by rick130

Phone Jeep Konnection or if you have no joy, contact Tom directly in Utah.
He's a really nice bloke and is super fast getting product out.

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Hi, Some recent experience of mine may help.

74 RRC with a 2" spring lift. Slotted the swivels 10 years ago to improve steering at speed, great mod.

Stock driveshaft, smooth as silk.

Recently swapped front whole diff out for one with maxi everything in it, along with radius arms. The new radius arms had caster correction bushes.

First thing I noticed was that the prop shaft was making contact with the crossmember. That never happened before. Put a slim tubular one in, all ok.

With the caster correction bushes the prop shaft lines up pretty well straight on with the front diff snout.

All good you might think, but no. The prop shaft angle at the front of the TC is noticeably increased, causing probs with the old crossmember.

Anyway, took it for a drive and felt the new vibes, not good. The prop shaft was in phase so I put it one spline out. Bit of an improvement, but not as good as it was with slotted swivels.

All I can say is with a 2"lift, IME slotted swivels will have the snout of the front diff pointing up about as much as the prop shaft points down from the front of the TC. i.e. roughly equal angles and just maybe less vibes.

cheers, DL

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

Hi, Some recent experience of mine may help.

74 RRC with a 2" spring lift. Slotted the swivels 10 years ago to improve steering at speed, great mod.

Stock driveshaft, smooth as silk.

Recently swapped front whole diff out for one with maxi everything in it, along with radius arms. The new radius arms had caster correction bushes.

First thing I noticed was that the prop shaft was making contact with the crossmember. That never happened before. Put a slim tubular one in, all ok.

With the caster correction bushes the prop shaft lines up pretty well straight on with the front diff snout.

All good you might think, but no. The prop shaft angle at the front of the TC is noticeably increased, causing probs with the old crossmember.

Anyway, took it for a drive and felt the new vibes, not good. The prop shaft was in phase so I put it one spline out. Bit of an improvement, but not as good as it was with slotted swivels.

All I can say is with a 2"lift, IME slotted swivels will have the snout of the front diff pointing up about as much as the prop shaft points down from the front of the TC. i.e. roughly equal angles and just maybe less vibes.

cheers, DL

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yes i think with slotted swivels you are closer to correct angles for a normal shaft. with caster corrected bushes (or radius arms) you end up close to correct for a double cardan ie angle on one end and straight the other, although the tc angle is still pretty steep.. around 10-12 degrees mine ended up at which is still probably a bit more than a double cardan really wants.