v8 vs td5

Not having driven a diesel can anyone answer this for me.

A lot of my driving is in mud: Darwin during the wet. Why I like the V8 is instant power, a good friend of mine owns a hilux that he put a 2.8 into then diff locks front and rear and cant get as far as me. I can only put this down to the fact that when I sink the boot into her she jumps up and sings where as the diesel takes longer gets bogged down and cant pull out.

Nor can he climb up the things I can get up? both vehicles have been modified to hell so in the end are very similar in that respect.

He sits on 80K down the highway I sit on what I want, he gets home on one tank I need to buy a shell tanker for mine.

cheers Blythe

I like my V8 and that will never change I guess.

Fuel economy isn't an issue for me, I only drive it on weekends and I'm lucky to use $200 a month (last time I filled it was when I went to Crystalvale about 3 weeks ago), although longer trips you spend more of course.

Plus I HATE diesles, it's no the same as a V8 end of story. Pass anything but a petrol station, but I have a big smile on my face blowing money out the exhaust, you only live once even if I am poorer for it :twisted: :twisted:

Trav

Love this topic.... Always brings a smile to my face!!!

Blow money out your vehicles exhaust :wink:

I'll save on fuel and then **** my extra cash on a tree at the campsite 8)

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Mike

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Not having driven a diesel can anyone answer this for me.

A lot of my driving is in mud: Darwin during the wet. Why I like the V8 is instant power, a good friend of mine owns a hilux that he put a 2.8 into then diff locks front and rear and cant get as far as me. I can only put this down to the fact that when I sink the boot into her she jumps up and sings where as the diesel takes longer gets bogged down and cant pull out.

Nor can he climb up the things I can get up? both vehicles have been modified to hell so in the end are very similar in that respect.

He sits on 80K down the highway I sit on what I want, he gets home on one tank I need to buy a shell tanker for mine.

cheers Blythe[/b][/quote]

I read somewhere that if you own a Land Rover, your IQ is increased by at least 33.3% recurring, and if you own a Jap 4x4, your IQ is decreased by at least 42.345% https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .

Maybe having the same effect on driving skills as it does with the grey matter :oops: .

You could always buy him a genuine Land Rover badge and glue it onto the Hilux. That should increase it's offroad ability by about 25%....maybe even 50% if you remove all the Toyota badges off it aswell :roll: .


Just jokes https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .

Not ever owning a V8, I would imagine the extra grunt of V8 would help in certain situations, over the 2.8L Hilux. Maybe the Hilux needs a diesel engine that has the ability to keep up with a TD5 from the start.

Then again, when it comes to Land Rover, I am as one eyed as they come :twisted: .

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Originally posted by tombraider
Love this topic.... Always brings a smile to my face!!!

Blow money out your vehicles exhaust :wink:

I'll save on fuel and then **** my extra cash on a tree at the campsite 8)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Mike

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I do both anyway. Plus I'm single so I have money to do so https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trav

Filled up both my cars on Sunday (pain in the arse both running out at same time)

Disco Td5 (2002) 525km, filled up 75.27L @ $1.359/L = $102.29

Disco V8i (1994) 517km filled up 91.83L @ $1.185/L = $108.83
(thank god for the long range tank)

The V8 is costing me less to run these days compared to the diesel, and it is soo much fun! I did most of the driving in both this month, and drove them fairly similarly. Not convinced I'll buy another diesel car, the extra expense of diesel fuel no longer justifies the fuel economy.

I must point out, I can get better economy from the diesel on long trips, whereas thats about it for the V8.

I love V8s (have owned two), but just cannot see the rationale anymore.

My TD5 puts out more power and torque than the Rover V8, drinks less, and sounds just as good with the 3" straight-thru exhaust. Why do I want to own a V8?

The range issue with a V8 is a big factor and even worse if running LPG.

At the moment, the cost advantage of running a diesel over a V8 is marginal unless doing big Kms.

The only ?? with the highly-strung diesel is longevity, but only time will tell on that one :wink:

Re V8 power vs diesel power, (it actually should be torque your talking)
Both in standard trim The HS2.8TGV (high performance 300 Tdi) (yes I know it’s the same engine I import so free plug for me) has almost exactly the same torque as a 4.6 ltr RR V8
Only the diesels max torque is from 1400rpm 8) nd the V8s something like 4000rpm so the diesel will climb its way 10 time farther through mud ect than the V8 cause as soon as your V8 RPMs drop there goes your torque

Also seen as how you mentioned Jap diesels (toymota) the Jap engines are what give diesels bad names (noisy and underpowered/cc) and yes I have experience with them I have got (for work) a 1 yr old Nissan Navara STR (biggest piece of crap ever)
3ltr turbo diesel wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding way less power than a Td5 or HS2.8 and they are both smaller engines?
Also crap (petrol like) torque curve
(anyone want to buy a 1 yr old navara?)

Jase

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Originally posted by Lucy
Filled up both my cars on Sunday (pain in the arse both running out at same time)

Disco Td5 (2002) 525km, filled up 75.27L @ $1.359/L = $102.29

Disco V8i (1994) 517km filled up 91.83L @ $1.185/L = $108.83
(thank god for the long range tank)

The V8 is costing me less to run these days compared to the diesel, and it is soo much fun! I did most of the driving in both this month, and drove them fairly similarly. Not convinced I'll buy another diesel car, the extra expense of diesel fuel no longer justifies the fuel economy.

I must point out, I can get better economy from the diesel on long trips, whereas thats about it for the V8.

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I must be missing something here.
75l ($102.00) = 525km
92l ($108.80) = 517km
Thats 17l less fuel to travel slightly further (8km)
Now 17l * $1.359 = $23.10 savings per tank over same distance.

I travel 40k yearly now so that would save me:
40000/525 = 76.2 tankfuls
76.2 (tanks) * $23.10 (savings per tank) = $1760.00 approx. in fuel

Add service intervals of 15k not 10k (filters kit is $90.00)...
Plus lower rego for TD5 over V8
Plus lower insurance over V8

I save in excess of $5000.00 per year. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/




Simply put though....

I had a D1 V8 which on my Fuel Card cost $11000.00 pa to operate (fuel only)

The Defender TD5 fuel card is approx. $6000.00 pa

You tell me which is better.


And I agree, 3" of turbo diesel growl sounds sweeter than the note of a small capacity V8 any day :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Cheers
Mike[/i]

I only do around 6000kays a year in the V8,
who cares how much petrol is?

can you hear the exhaust of a diesel over the rattle?


ohh new racing formula,
Diesel Super Cars!
listen to those engines purr https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/




remember folks,, this is all in fun :wink: