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    Speedo, Tyres and Correction

    I have read about various devices to install to correct speedo reading when running oversize tyres (current running 235/85/16 on D2) but was doing some checking the other day and noticed something ..... umm.... a little odd.

    While having my Nanocom plugged in to monitor a couple of things while mobile I noticed that the "Speed" showing appears to be quite acurate compared to my knowledge of how far out the actual speedo reading is. So this got me thinking and the answers are far beyond my knowledge/understanding of these workings so here goes.

    I am assuming that the Nanocom is working off wheel speed rather than final drive speed from transmission. If this is the case, then is there any way to have that signal read by the speedo, as opposed to where ever the signal is coming from now, and that would eliminate the need for any other "device" to correct the speedo no matter what size tyre you are running.

    As I said, I know nothing of these systems and how they interact so there is probably a simple answer as to why this cannot be done. But then again we are a collective of intuitive, innovative and inventive individuals so maybe there is someone who can work it out.
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    The Disco2 reads its speed via the ABS sensors which all report back to the SLABS computer which then averages the speed from the 4 sensors and outputs that as a single signal. That signal then is split to the speedo and the BCU. I’m not sure if the Nanocom picks up its speed from the SLABS directly of the BCU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    The Disco2 reads its speed via the ABS sensors which all report back to the SLABS computer which then averages the speed from the 4 sensors and outputs that as a single signal. That signal then is split to the speedo and the BCU. I’m not sure if the Nanocom picks up its speed from the SLABS directly of the BCU.

    Yep, Nanocom has a multiplication factor that you can play with until you get the right speed. Its on the same screen as the coolant temp alert setting. I have the Hunter-Di supplied C6100 adapter as well, so amuse myself checking speeds on speedo, nanocom and gps against km signs on the way down Forrest H'way between Perth and Bunbury etc.
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    I just use the gps as a speedo as the one in the D2a is out 6k's at 100kph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    I just use the gps as a speedo as the one in the D2a is out 6k's at 100kph.
    When I was getting engineering approval, they wouldn't let me use GPS as the primary speed reading device because it doesnt work in all conditions.

    A speedo correction unit is probably only $100 or so, saves me all of the calculations also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    When I was getting engineering approval, they wouldn't let me use GPS as the primary speed reading device because it doesnt work in all conditions.

    A speedo correction unit is probably only $100 or so, saves me all of the calculations also.
    Slunnie,

    with your speedo correction device does your cruise control still work?. I think I remember reading that you had issues getting it to work after the install of the correction device.

    FYI, I have the same as your original 4x4 intelligence / superlift one and would like to install it but do a lot of highway work so want the cruise control.

    cheers, Chris

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    Personally adding MORE electronics to a D2 is Not a great idea, Using a GPS to get an idea of the difference between what is being displayed on the speedo and you actual speed and driving accordingly is a much simpler option to adding another electronic device
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4runnernomore View Post
    Slunnie,

    with your speedo correction device does your cruise control still work?. I think I remember reading that you had issues getting it to work after the install of the correction device.

    FYI, I have the same as your original 4x4 intelligence / superlift one and would like to install it but do a lot of highway work so want the cruise control.

    cheers, Chris
    Hey Chris, yes, no problems with the cruise control. Mine is an Auto transmission. I do a lot of highway work also and love the CC.

    The issue is with the manual transmissions and losing CC. If the roadspeed doesnt match the gearing, then you will lose CC. Ie on a manual, the speedo correction has to match the driveline gearing to retain it. Off the top of my head you can intercept the signal to the Dash, but I have not tried that and I can not confirm it doesnt upset the dash/BCU odometer confirmation, but I do understand this to the be workaround.
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    As already stated wheel speed sensors send signals to the SLABS and Nanocom reads from there.
    Nanocom will always agree with the speedo unless you play with the ratio (EVO only)
    A speedometer correction unit will intercept output signal from the SLABS to speedometer and provide permanent correction.
    You cant permanently correct the speedo reading with Nanocom.
    As far as the cruise control question goes. If you have a C1600 from Hunter Di, everything will work as factory if installed correctly. I believe the same applies for "truespeed" also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangy View Post
    As already stated wheel speed sensors send signals to the SLABS and Nanocom reads from there.
    Nanocom will always agree with the speedo unless you play with the ratio (EVO only)
    A speedometer correction unit will intercept output signal from the SLABS to speedometer and provide permanent correction.
    You cant permanently correct the speedo reading with Nanocom.
    As far as the cruise control question goes. If you have a C1600 from Hunter Di, everything will work as factory if installed correctly. I believe the same applies for "truespeed" also.
    Installed after SLABS on a manual transmission you will lose CC if you haven’t regeared.
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