Thread: Driving lights - economic halogen option?

Watching with interest. I've recently fitted some old Super Oscars I had and am tossing up between HID and LED conversion for them.

Originally Posted by Fattima

Watching with interest. I've recently fitted some old Super Oscars I had and am tossing up between HID and LED conversion for them.

FWIW Ozscott has Super Oscars with HID's on his Disco and loves them

Originally Posted by Fattima

Watching with interest. I've recently fitted some old Super Oscars I had and am tossing up between HID and LED conversion for them.

I find after a long drive behind the son's LED that my eyes are getting a bit uncomfortable and scratchy. Much prefer halogen. Am looking at going to a set of the old 4 1/4 inch aircraft landing lights made by GE. Not that impressed with some of the newer generation lights.

There is some info on the Fyrlite web page that talks about different types of lights.

Originally Posted by steveG

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Those of you that have HID conversions, do you find them to be a harsh sort of bleached light like some LEDs can be. .............................

Steve

Don't go over 4300k with the globe colour or you risk the light being really harsh white or even slightly blue.

Some 5000k globes are sold as 'daylight' but its way harsher than any daylight I've seen.

DL

Originally Posted by steveG

Those of you that have HID conversions, do you find them to be a harsh sort of bleached light like some LEDs can be.
Steve

I changed my Lightforce over to HID's for a while, did my own thing, as the genuine light force kit was absurdly expensive.
Changed them back after a couple of drives as
I thought they were too harsh and as mentioned above my eyes were getting scratchy after a few hours
More annoying was the warm up time, though I don't have a light bar to fill in the time delay.
Because they are so bright and blue-ish had trouble seeing for a few seconds when I had to dip to low beam.

Cheers Glen.

Originally Posted by steveG

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Thinking of picking up a used set of brand name lights as there seem to be plenty around reasonably cheap as everyone upgrades.
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If we could arrange a time and a place, I have an old pair of rectangular IPF(sorry can't remember the model numbers, but they're a common light back in the day).

I ripped them out after finding that I hate mixing LEDs and Halogens.
I find the whiter colour of LEDs much less tiring .. so I'd argue against the comments mentioned re the lower colour factor, and go with a min 5000K to 5500K.

Anyhows .... the only reason I saved these IPFs was for moments like this .. I hate chucking stuff that still has some use.

specifics: I'm in the middle of building a shed, and my garden shed shed is a total mess, and they're in there somewhere under a couple of tons of tools and other carp.

So if you're not in a hurry for them, you're welcome to them.
I think they still have their 100w H1 globes. No wires, no nuthin .. just the two globe bodies(and maybe their globes) and the two short wires hanging off the bodies .. so you'd obviously need install stuff to get them going.
Cond is fair. minimal rust on the chrome .. basically in G.C .. that they were worth holding onto.
Had they had too much rust, I'd probably have checked them by now.

SO given the above, if you want to PM me and organise a time to try to catch up .. and can wait a couple of weeks(till I can half finish my new shed, to allow me to half empty the garden shed)

They're all yours.

Originally Posted by steveG

Looking to put a basic set of halogen driving lights on the county to compliment the LED headlights and light bar for occasional night driving.

If you have converted the headlights to LED and I assume the light bar is also LED (as I haven’t seen one that isn’t before), why do you want to go with a halogen driving lights to ‘complement’ them? Why not stick with the LEDs so that you have some consistency in your light colouring etc? From my, somewhat limited experience, the halogen colour gets washed out by the bright white of the LEDs (I think someone else has mentioned similar above too) - I’m not saying that they don’t have the distance or aren’t better performers, and I’m certainly not commenting on FYRLYT which I’ve never experienced but note they are drastically different to other more common halogen lights.

To that end 4WD Supacentre/Kings Adventure have released a new range of LED driving lights which seem to have been upgraded to German Orasm LEDs. The old generation seem to be extremely popular so I’d assume the new ones are an improvement again from what they’re saying - might be worth checking out.

From what I’ve read HID globes are the most fragile (and most costly to replace) while LEDs the most durable which can be a consideration on a 4WD vehicle used offroad.
Theres also the delay factor with HIDs which depending on the model can be quiet lengthy. Certainly I would find inappropriate for somewhere like Tas where the roads are often windy with thick growth either side so it’s on and off a lot.

Personally I fundamentally don’t like the idea of HID and LED conversions as it’s using a light source type that the reflector and lense weren’t designed for. I would assume a proper designed for application light would be superior to that of a converted.

I found my Lightforce spots were redundant once I fitted a lightbar and upgraded headlight bulbs. The spots made so little difference it wasn't even worth turning them on.
I might remove mine and replace them with LED spots for longer distance.