Don't buy a Land Rover in 2020 (& here's why)

I gotta say I don’t mind watching his videos either, he seems to be a pretty smart guy, especially when you read all the biased ad revenue driven reviews and commentary from other journalists.

My one and only dealing with JLRA when I had an issue was an absolute shocker that too over a year to try and fix and I eventually gave up.

As expensive as it was to use my D4 as a daily drive I absolutely love this car.

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Originally Posted by barney

I saw this video last week. I like his one on jeeps, although it was mostly about 2 or 3 horror stories, he pretty-well tarred the whole brand with the same brush.
He is making generalisations about land Rovers based on a few bad experiences from service centres on a particular model. Considering the new defender is coming here this year, it is a pretty broad claim to state that all Land Rovers in 2020 will be rubbish.
At best this guy can be mildly entertaining, mostly though, he is fairly annoying. I think he is the only one who considers him and "expert" on anything.

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He's an automotive engineer with a lot of experience in the car industry. I think anything he says should be listened to at least especially as against many motoring journalists who are not so qualified and who don't see vehicles and hear from owners after at most a 'long term' 1 year test and where most 'testing' is 1 day to a week. Cheers

He likes Mazdas, which is a point in his favour I reckon, as I like Mazdas too.
Our Mazda was serviced yesterday and Mazda agreed to fix something for free which wasn't covered by warranty, so you can't complain about that. Plus we got free complimentary breakfasts!
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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

He likes Mazdas, which is a point in his favour I reckon, as I like Mazdas too.
Our Mazda was serviced yesterday and Mazda agreed to fix something for free which wasn't covered by warranty, so you can't complain about that. Plus we got free complimentary breakfasts!
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He likes Triton since the MQ also and for good reason. Interestingly and through little influence by John I have a Mazda 3 and an MR Triton. It just so happens he rates both very highly. The fact that he does so though advances his credentials with me in terms of what is a good vehicle. And I take his point about Land Rover. I love them with my heart and not my head. He is always about the head so I can well understand his position.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Plus we got free complimentary breakfasts!
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A friend of ours said the same after she had her Triton serviced recently. She was quite pleased until we said "Your $900 service paid for the breakfast."

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Originally Posted by p38arover

A friend of ours said the same after she had her Triton serviced recently. She was quite pleased until we said "Your $900 service paid for the breakfast."

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Haha. Yep, you don't get nothing for nothing as the saying goes.

I have several years free servicing on my Triton (for the 15,000k intervals). Call me prudent or old fashioned but I am paying the dealer $299 a hit for intermediates at half the intervals. I don't trust oil for 15,000k especially in DPF regen motors even DPF systems as well sorted as Mitsubishi have.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Haha. Yep, you don't get nothing for nothing as the saying goes.

I have several years free servicing on my Triton (for the 15,000k intervals). Call me prudent or old fashioned but I am paying the dealer $299 a hit for intermediates at half the intervals. I don't trust oil for 15,000k especially in DPF regen motors even DPF systems as well sorted as Mitsubishi have.

Cheers

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Our Mazda has 10,000 km or six month services, fixed price at about $300 (varies slightly between A and B services).
We extended the three year warranty to five years. All servicing has been done at the selling dealer.
At last week's service they under warranty replaced both rear seat belt tensioners, which weren't fully retracting, and also replaced a guard on a front steering bush, which was knocking on full lock.
Otherwise, at 70,000 kms, all it has needed was new tyres at 60,000 kms.
So the quality is great.
And we got free breakfast while we waited. [emoji41]

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Our Mazda has 10,000 km or six month services, fixed price at about $300 (varies slightly between A and B services).
We extended the three year warranty to five years. All servicing has been done at the selling dealer.
At last week's service they under warranty replaced both rear seat belt tensioners, which weren't fully retracting, and also replaced a guard on a front steering bush, which was knocking on full lock.
Otherwise, at 70,000 kms, all it has needed was new tyres at 60,000 kms.
So the quality is great.
And we got free breakfast while we waited. [emoji41]

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We have both Mazda and Toyota,company vehicles,both serviced at the dealers,have for years.

The Mazda rates are always higher than the Toyota rates,for everything,labour,oil,sundries,filters,whatever.
And by quite a margin,particularly their labour rates.Oils are exactly the same type at the two dealers,prices per litre way more for Mazda.
Both dealerships have the same owner,and i have mentioned the price issue to Mazda,but they don't really care.
The Toyota part of the dealership are also way more helpful.

Yes, we had a Yaris before as a runabout and the service costs were lower, but the 2 is a much better car.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

He's an automotive engineer with a lot of experience in the car industry. I think anything he says should be listened to at least especially as against many motoring journalists who are not so qualified and who don't see vehicles and hear from owners after at most a 'long term' 1 year test and where most 'testing' is 1 day to a week. Cheers

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Fair enough, but chances are he only hears the complaints and not anything good from the happy customers. People are more likely to complain because they want to vent to anyone that will listen. Happy customers will tell their friends in a subtle form of bragging and to reinforce the notion that they have made the right choice, but often wont go out of their way to tell a complete stranger.
As far as being and automotive engineer, therefore an expert, well that doesn't really wash with me. There are plenty of engineers in many fields that would not be considered "experts" i concede he has been around for a while in the industry and does have a fair bit of knowledge, but to be an expert on every car is a big claim. I've only met one person who I would attribute that title to, and that was Peter Wherret.
Aside from the cross-dressing remarks that are bound to come out, he was such a knowledgeable man, the likes of which i have never seen since. I could explain my reasoning for this, but it's knock off time and I need to go.