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    labelling wiring/relays

    Hi All,

    I'm just trying to sort out the wiring on one of my old cars..... I created a lot of this mess about 15years ago...... and I'll be buggered if I can remember what any of the relays and wiring is for without tracing it all out. Does anyone have any smart way of tagging this that will last into the future. Writing on relays is no good as they can be moved around and changed. This is the mess I created.

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    Its a non-land rover car my father imported from the salty soggy uk back in the mid 90's. So I've unwrapped a lot of the wiring to splice in new connector block (as they were green with corrosion)... and replace rotten wiring.

    I'm in the process of tidying it all up and re-wrapping all of the harnesses.
    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
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    industrial level dymo style labellers have the ability to print on standard dymo label tape in a few formats that can be wrapped around a wire (perpendicular to tape direction for multiple wraps around a wire, or mirrored to allow a wire 'flag' label).
    Some also have the ability to print on a heat shrink material that can be applied to a wire on assembly of connectors etc.
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    As TA suggested

    I have a DYMO Rhino which you can get labels that stick a lot better than your home/office ones
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    I have the 6000 which I don’t think is available anymore but the 4200 is only about $150 for the basic machine
    Mine is about 10 years old and still going, I had to get a new battery 2 years ago

    The heat shrink tape is a bit expensive and only comes in a short roll compared to the others (2m vs 5m), you also have to disconnect everything to slide on the tube

    There is a self laminating label
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    Which works well in hot environments from what I recall

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    The Rhino labellers are good but $$$. Whenever possible, I prefer the shrinkwrap label tape for marking cables.

    Of course, if you can use shrink wrap, a fine point Sharpie and regular shrinkwrap works well if you don't already have the labeller. Other cheap alternatives are label tie wraps as sold by the likes of Jaycar or slip on labels which can be purchased from trade electrical stores.

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    Thanks All,

    I didn't realise those little labelling machines could print a label that would last in an engine compartment! Heat shrink would be a good option, except I'd have to cut all the terminals off to slide the stuff onto the wires.

    Has anyone tried these sorts of cable ties ?

    100pcs/lot 4X150 Ethernet Wire Zip Cable Ties Tie Mark Tags Nylon Label Write | eBay

    I'm wondering if they survived under the bonnet ..... and what you could actually write on them with that wouldn't dissapear after a couple of years ( permenant markers fade away after a couple of years).

    seeya
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    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Thanks All,

    I didn't realise those little labelling machines could print a label that would last in an engine compartment! Heat shrink would be a good option, except I'd have to cut all the terminals off to slide the stuff onto the wires.

    Has anyone tried these sorts of cable ties ?

    100pcs/lot 4X150 Ethernet Wire Zip Cable Ties Tie Mark Tags Nylon Label Write | eBay

    I'm wondering if they survived under the bonnet ..... and what you could actually write on them with that wouldn't dissapear after a couple of years ( permenant markers fade away after a couple of years).

    seeya
    Shane L.
    From my experience, most white cable ties go brittle a break easier than most black ties (of course their are exceptions), especially in hot environments
    If you get markers with xylene in them they tend not to fade

    The slip on cable markers mentioned by Reefmagnet

    Marker holder Memocab - for cables - marking length 20 mm (8 markers) - 0 377 12 - Legrand

    Grafoplast Products | For Cable Marking And Wire Marking

    can also get expensive as you need the ferrules to go inside unless you just write on them with a marker or order the ferrules pre printed but the clear sleeve will turn yellow with heat
    1985 110 Dual Cab 4.6 R380 ARB Lockers (currently NIS due to roof kissing road)
    1985 110 Station Wagon 3.5 LT85 (unmolested blank canvas)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav 110 View Post
    From my experience, most white cable ties go brittle a break easier than most black ties (of course their are exceptions), especially in hot environments
    If you get markers with xylene in them they tend not to fade

    The slip on cable markers mentioned by Reefmagnet

    Marker holder Memocab - for cables - marking length 20 mm (8 markers) - 0 377 12 - Legrand

    Grafoplast Products | For Cable Marking And Wire Marking

    can also get expensive as you need the ferrules to go inside unless you just write on them with a marker or order the ferrules pre printed but the clear sleeve will turn yellow with heat
    Oh I see, it looks like you can tie them on without having to cut any plugs off the wires so they can be attached too. That would be a very good way of marking them.
    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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    I've had good success using a paper label printed off my computer in small font and slipped inside a bit of transparent heat shrink. But yes you generally need to do this before the connector is installed to the wire.

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    I've been googling, and I think I might buy some black cable tie labels... and a white garden marker from officeworks. The feedback on those markers sounds excellent (as in, they write on plastic with them, then leave the plastic labels outside in the sun for long periods of time without fading).

    500Pcs 2.5*200mm Nylon Marker Mark Tags Label Cable Zip Ties-Black | eBay

    and try this.

    Artline Gardener Marker White | Officeworks

    I'll hang some around the engine bay as a test .... placing some in the airflow of the radiator fans, one near the turbo etc..... Actually, I'll do it with the boss womens car as it gets driven constantly everyday and see how they go.
    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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