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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello Tins,

    When you have some time, could you please take a photograph of the lifting points and post them on this thread? Thank you!

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    Lionel, here is the rear one. The front will have to wait a little longer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Lionel, here is the rear one. The front will have to wait a little longer.....

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    Hello Tins,

    Thank you. It looks like someone must have scavenged some bolts off my engine then.

    Kind regards
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    Front one, Lionel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Front one, Lionel.

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    Hello Tins,

    Thank you for taking the time to photograph and post the photos. They do look capable of lifting the engine don't they!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Hello Tins,

    Thank you for taking the time to photograph and post the photos. They do look capable of lifting the engine don't they!

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    They lifted it today, Lionel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    They lifted it today, Lionel...
    Hello Tins,

    I had a quick squiz today at the front lifting point on an old 2.6 six cylinder. I have to have a closer look over the weekend to see how transferable its tow lifting points are! Plus, I will be making a contribution to Bunnings' profits when I go to buy some more pine treated 'sleepers' to make an engine dolly for the V8 out of. Not a really butch name for something that allows people to move heavy stuff around... Dolly.

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    G'day Arthur and Other Interested Parties,

    As Arthur stated, my 1996 Discover 1 came fitted with a 300TDI a 4HP22 (auto) and a Lt230 (transfer) combination.

    Back in 1996 what did the V8 version petrol version of a 1996 Discovery 1 also come fitted with the 4HP22 (auto) + Lt230 (transfer) combination? If not this combination, what automatic gearbox and transfer case were V8 petrols come fitted with

    Did this combination continue through the whole Discovery 1 run of production or during a particular year did the company decide to make some changes - if so what year range did the 4HP22 (auto) + Lt230 (transfer) were available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    ....

    Did this combination continue through the whole Discovery 1 run of production or during a particular year did the company decide to make some changes - if so what year range did the 4HP22 (auto) + Lt230 (transfer) were available?

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    IIRC, 200 Tdi Disco never had auto.
    Auto diesel disco started with the 300 tdi.. Difference between early Disco and updated Disco are primarily the headlights(huge rectangular units that basically fit the entire headlight slot .. early series Disco had the 5x7" style rectangular type shrouded to fit in the headlight recess. The other main and obvious difference is the interior update, major part being the updated dash section.

    Can't recall exact years, but roughly speaking about 1994-ish year model.

    All v8s had the HP22 fitted. Pretty much all RRCs and Discos of the early years(Disco 2s etc) use the ZF autoboxes.
    Really really early RangeRovers had some 3 sp Chrysler autos, but they are very few and far between, the vast vast majority of RRCs up to about mid 80s all used the 'beloved' LT95(which you have).

    From that mid 80's period(again very vague but I think 86-ish) ... you could bank on a LR auto would have been a ZF4HP22. So lets say 1986(RRC) up to 2004(Disco2) and auto LR of popular choice would have used a HP22. The larger more powerful V8s used the larger HP24. There are other caveats, but can't recall all of them .. like the p38a RR(RRC replacement) used the HP24, as the majority were the 'larger engine'. but if you see one with a 4.0lt, it should have the HP22.
    The other caveat to be mindful of(if you go HP22 hunting that is) .. that in the Disco 2 and P38a era, the HP22 is an electronic version with the more accurate name of ZF4HP22EH(or most folks call it the 4HP22E). The caveat to note is that it needs an ECU brains box to work, so if you find a 4 lt V8 and autobox and it is a E version, then it should have the trans ECU to go with it. Otherwise you won't get it to work without one. Whereas the full hydraulic type, like in the RRC and Disco1s, works as long as you have filled it correctly with fluid.

    Side note(1): If you have a peek around the forums, there is a chap looking for a 300 Tdi autobox(that you have). If you don't have plans to install it with a 300 tdi motor into something .. there's a sell for 'ya.

    Side note (2): this HP22 autobox was massively popular gearbox through the 80s and into the early 2000s' too. Many manufacturers used it. BMW, Peugeot, Ford, Porsche, Jaguar, Lotus, Maserati, Volvo .. to name a few. But BMW were the major maker that used it in a lot of their vehicles.
    Arthur.

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    Hello Arthur,

    I had an 'interesting' day today that involved getting both my Discovery 1 (300tdi) and the 110 Defender with the 200tdi running today. No, my plans for today had not included getting either vehicles started. As things happened - I wound up taking the Discovery for a blat in the paddock and had it sideways a couple of times. I was surprised how much poke it had! Unfortunately the feeling I had in the Defender did not compare to the Disco. What I felt was either the clutch master cylinder or the slave cylinder taking itself off to heaven when I depressed the clutch pedal. Sort of a build up of pressure then a big purge feeling that was accompanied by muffled sort of sound down under either the floor or the firewall. Then, immediately after that the clutch pedal went straight to the floor. It did not 'pump-up'. As I was in the middle of sorting a problem at the time I have not checked the two clutch related hydraulic cylinders to see which of the two met its demise. Another tick on the 'jobs to do' check-list

    For the 'project' it looks like a donor V8 Discovery 1 with 3.9 litre with a ZF4HP22 automatic could be on my post-holiday shopping list in mid-July. One thing that previously stopped me having V8s was how ridiculously penalised they are in Queensland. When the annual rego for a V8 went to very close to $1000 I drew the line. Fast forward a number of years and now my V6 Commodore is very - very close to the same line. Now I figure - might as well be hung for a sheep ...! I used to have a V8 Commodore; the V6 just does not have the same sweet sound.


    Kind regards
    Lionel

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