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    Cool Power Steering Fluid

    I'm currently driving a 1999 SE Discovery 2 V8, and would like to change my power steering fluid and ACE. I've been to places like supercheap auto and repco to try and find some both and on both occassions it kept saying refer to owners manual. The owners manual says for replacement that I need to use Texaco Cold Climate PAS fluid 14315. I've rung my local landrover here in Brisbane and are charging $18 a litre for the fluid and they were very reluctant to give the fluid type they use. I know that I could get it cheaper else where, my question is, is there a brand that I could use in the PAS and ACE without having to go to Landrover and thats it's safe to use. If not I may have to resort to paying $18 a litre.

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    Data sheet info :
    Cold Climate PSF 14315 (Stoke UK)

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    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315

    DESCRIPTION
    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315 is blended from a mixture of synthetic and mineral base oils along with carefully selected additives to provide excellent performance in power steering systems. Additionally it contains a unique additive component which has been shown to reduce steering pump noise (squeal).

    BENEFITS
    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315 provides :
    • Protection against rust, corrosion and wear
    • Excellent low temperature fluidity for good cold start steering
    • Excellent oxidation resistance
    • Protection against seal and hose deterioration
    • A unique additive component to minimise pump squeal

    APPLICATION
    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315 is specially formulated to meet all of the requirements of the GM (Delphi Saginaw) and Chrysler specifications covering fluids for use in automotive power steering systems.
    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315 is also suitable for use in other original equipment manufacturers' power steering systems, especially where automatic transmission fluids are specified and better cold performance is required.


    PRODUCT
    INFORMATION


    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315

    PRODUCT RECOMMENDATIONS AND APPROVALS

    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315 has the following approvals:
    General Motors: GM 9985835

    ZF: TE-ML 09B
    Landrover: All vehicles, for Power Steering and Active Cornering Enhancement (ACE) systems

    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315 is recommended for use in:
    Chrysler: MS 5931
    Saab

    PRODUCT MAINTENANCE
    There are no special storage or handling requirements for this product.

    REMARK
    The information given in the typical data does not constitute a specification but is an indication based on current production and can be affected by allowable production tolerances. The right to make modifications is reserved. This edition supersedes all previous editions and information contained in them.

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    TYPICAL DATA
    COLD CLIMATE POWER STEERING FLUID 14315

    Code number 2261
    ETL - number Test methods 14315
    Density, 15Deg C, kg/l ASTM D1298 0.862
    Flash Point COC, Deg C ISO 2593 215
    Pour Point, Deg C ISO 3016 -51
    Aniline Point, Deg C ISO 2977 91
    Visc, Kinematic, 40Deg C, mm2/s ISO 3104 25.6
    Visc, Kinematic, 100Deg C, mm2/s ISO 3104 6.4
    Visc, Brookfield, -30Deg C, mPa.s ASTM D2983 1300
    Visc, Brookfield, -40Deg C, mPa.s ASTM D2983 4500
    Viscosity Index ISO 2909 196
    Copper Corrosion, 3h, 100C ASTM D0130 1a
    Foam Seq I, IAB, ml ISO 6247 0
    Foam Seq I, AFT 10' ST, ml ISO 6247 0
    Foam Seq II, IAB, ml ISO 6247 10
    Foam Seq II, AFT 10' ST, ml ISO 6247 0
    Foam Seq III, IAB, ml ISO 6247 0
    Foam Seq III, AFT 10' ST, ml ISO 6247 0
    Shear Stability, 20h CEC L45T93 .
    Visc. Kinematic, 100Deg C, mm2/s 4.4
    FZG Damaged Load, a/8.3/90 DIN 51354 12
    Elemental Analysis X-RAY
    Calcium, %w 0.008
    Chlorine, %w 0.006
    Phosphorus, %w 0.19
    Zinc, %w <0.001
    Nitrogen, %w ASTM D3228 0.11
    Total Acid Number, mgKOH/g DIN 51558 1.23
    Total Base Number, mgKOH/g ISO 3771 2.7
    Rust. Dist. H2O PR.A ASTM D0665A Pass

    HANDLING PRACTICES
    For information on the safe handling and use of this product, refer to the Material Safety Data Sheet (available on the Texaco PSI Intranet Site).
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    Thanks CraigE for the info. I'm taking thats it's safe to use the GM product. Sorry to ask, but i have just recently bought this vehicle

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    I would think so, but may be worth an email to Castrol, BP, Valvoline or similar to see what they have got.
    This is what Castrol reccomend :
    Power SteeringCASTROL TQ DEXRON III
    Automatic transmission fluid formulated to the Dexron&#174; III specification. Provides enhanced friction durability, wear performance, oxidation resistance and cold temperature fluidity. May be used in all vehicles where Dexron&#174; fluids are recommended.
    2011 Discovery 4 TDV6
    2009 DRZ400E Suzuki
    1956 & 1961 P4 Rover (project)
    1976 SS Torana (project - all cash donations or parts accepted)
    2003 WK Holden Statesman
    Departed
    2000 Defender Extreme: Shrek (but only to son)
    84 RR (Gone) 97 Tdi Disco (Gone)
    98 Ducati 900SS Gone & Missed

    Facta Non Verba

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE
    I would think so, but may be worth an email to Castrol, BP, Valvoline or similar to see what they have got.
    This is what Castrol reccomend :
    Power SteeringCASTROL TQ DEXRON III
    Automatic transmission fluid formulated to the Dexron® III specification. Provides enhanced friction durability, wear performance, oxidation resistance and cold temperature fluidity. May be used in all vehicles where Dexron® fluids are recommended.
    Certainly agree with Dexron III - it's the same stuff only cheaper than the LR Dealers use.

    Where I get my Disco 2 serviced also uses/recommends it.

    L

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    I second, third and what ever number happens to be next in line with Dexron III for all LR gearboxes (yup even the series ones) Tcases and powersteering resiviours. for those you who have hydraulic winches and other things them to.
    Dave

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    hmmmm does it really matter?
    I just bought some generic stuff from supercrap for my old rangie.
    Should I not use it???????

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    I have used the atf fluid in both the ace and steering for the last 50,000km,s and so far no problems
    disco seriesII mods so far:-bullbar,hyd winch,
    detriot locker,lsd front,C.D.L kit,chipped and bigger intercooler,2" lift,rock sliders, lsd in transfer case, modified auto trans.

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    remember the old add

    Oils aint oils......

    Hell in a pinch if you were desperate you could use the wifes cooking oil

    But you do get what you pay for, paying the premium for the good oil is cheap insurance against all manner of potential nasties.

    This is an extreme example it never actually happend but the potential is there.

    Ive been cheap, I put the cheap oil in the resiviour for the hydraulic winch and Ive been merrily winching at the limit of the winch on kermit for a couple of hours now, The pump is driven of the main fan belt and Im racking up the cold beer owed for recovering toyotas out of a simple hole that I waltzed through in high 2wd. (yeah ok so kermits winch is PTO drive and high 2 is exxagerating)

    Having no sense of smell (seriously I dont long story) I didnt smell the smell of burning hydraulic oil and before long the hyrdaulic oil is boiling merrily and the pump begins to cavitate, the lube supply to the bearings in the pump fails and the drive shaft seizes The warning i get for this is when the alternator warning light comes on. The belt which was long overdue for replacement has decided its not up to the task and has decided to take a break. Thats ok I have a spare.... unfortunately its too long to fit if I just thread it on and bypass the oil pump pully which is now siezed solid.

    For the want of $20 dollars to put the expensive oil in that had the better addatives and higher boiling point Im now stuck at the top of the hill with a donk I cant run and Im going to have to give back some of the cold beer to get towed back by a toyota...

    2 sins in one go......

    the moral of the story

    Get the good oil...
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

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    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    err...actually....the old ad says 'castrol oils aint oils'.....
    any other brand is fine......




    if you took your car anywhere to get serviced...and the power steering fluid was replaced....
    it would be replaced with dexron III........dexron IIII is not that popular yet.......
    but it soon will be......its what the new commodores and falcons use......


    dexron III is fine.......just get a decent brand.....
    and there are quite a few additives you could add if you want piece of mind......
    with lucas range of additives being quite good.......

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