Tyres.....again

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Originally Posted by Norm Mueller

How do you find performance (esp torque) with the bigger tyres? I've been considering the 245/75 for mine as I've got 235/70 now. The Tdi is underpowered as it is. I like the idea of the light truck construction as well (I'm always worried about sidewall damage on the passenger construction style).

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Didn't really notice too much diffrence in performance.

Speedo is now dead on too ( as opposed to 5km/h under on 235/70 ). this is measured with a GPS and also on those highway speed checkers.

You will probably need a tiny trim on the inside bottom lip of the rear mudguard - you can do it with tin snips.

I've got a second set of tyres for offroad use. They are BFG MT 245/75 R16s, and I have checked the speedo with a GPS. An indicated 100 actually translates to a speeding ticket at 104kph. An indicated 60 is also ticket territory.

Mike

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Originally Posted by MacMan

I've got a second set of tyres for offroad use. They are BFG MT 245/75 R16s, and I have checked the speedo with a GPS. An indicated 100 actually translates to a speeding ticket at 104kph. An indicated 60 is also ticket territory.

Mike

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Guess it depends on calibration of individual speedos. I've checked mine at 50km/h through to 100 and it is accurate to 1 or 2 km/h
Wonder if v8 and TDi read different - or maybe auto and manual ?

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Originally Posted by waynep

Guess it depends on calibration of individual speedos. I've checked mine at 50km/h through to 100 and it is accurate to 1 or 2 km/h
Wonder if v8 and TDi read different - or maybe auto and manual ?

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You may even find that there are different cabling setups depending on the year of your model. Also the tread pattern makes a difference - the more agressive treads are actually taller tyres, so mud terrains are bigger than highway tyres for the same size specs. You can see the difference if you take a tape measure and look for where the width is measured. I find that some are measured from the "corner" of the lugs while others are measured from the base (where the lug wraps around the sidewall). That can be a big difference.

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Originally Posted by Feral

I am up for new tyres soon so I popped into Widetread to ask a few questions. I have done a search on this but it came up with Grimace 'POS' Rangie.....don't know how I got that.:confused:

Anyway, here are some issues which I am looking at. I mainly do touring stuff with the wife, kids and van and do less that 20% offroad, so I would be looking for more of a road tyre. I am looking for a bit of longevity.

The tyre tech stated the following:

235/70 x 16 for a Discovery II Td5.

Michelin XPC - 100,000 k's plus, $400 plus
BFG AT - 80,000 k's plus, $245
Michelin Synchrome - 60,000 k's, $275
Hankook RA23 - 50,000 k's, $195
Pirelli Scorpions - 80,000 k's, $ 225
He didn't even want to know about Bridgestone Duellers 694....too skatey in the wet when half worn.

My question is...can anyone back these claims up?

Cheers.
Lyndon.

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I've been using Michelin XPC's for years - absolutely fantastic:) , pricy but unbeatable for mainly on road use:) ....especially in the wet!:) .....OK for "non-serious" off-road use too!:) ....I paid $395 for last 2 I bought about 2 months ago.

Michelin Synchrones are really more "on-road" only tyres, although OK for sand:) .......they don't have the strenght of XPC's- especially without the re-inforced sidewalls and without side lug for some extra grip in mud etc as on XPC's:( .......I bought those last about 8 mths ago [for another LR] for $295

He didn't even want to know about Bridgestone Duellers 694....too skatey in the wet when half worn.

My question is...can anyone back these claims up?


Bridgestone DDs (M+S) have lived on my Disco for about 50,000ks are a little past half way. They work well for me and they're only 205/16, even do the job in sand.

It doesn't rain in Australia anymore so I woudn't worry too much about that,
(but when it did rain about three months ago i did have a 'scary moment', bl00dy close and very unexpected).

Cheers, GQ

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Originally Posted by ak

OK I have A/T 694's on my D2 and with 40,000K you could say they look to be half worn. I have to say in the wet they are fineand have found they hang on well. However maybe this will change in another 10,000K I will keep all posted what this tyre is like coming into the later part of it's life. That said no complaints about it yet.

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Quiggers does this answer your question?

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Originally Posted by Quiggers

Bridgestone DDs (M+S) have lived on my Disco for about 50,000ks are a little past half way. They work well for me and they're only 205/16, even do the job in sand.

It doesn't rain in Australia anymore so I woudn't worry too much about that,
(but when it did rain about three months ago i did have a 'scary moment', bl00dy close and very unexpected).

Cheers, GQ

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Quiggers - when I first bought my IIA it had bridgestone DD's (old style) on it that were 1/2-3/4 worn. The design of this model had all the transverse water channels only half the depth of the other channels, so when they get half worn they only have longitudinal grooves (they look like the steer tyres on old trucks then). I found that these had terrible grip on wet roads and unless I was really careful I would spin the wheels - even with an asthmatic 2.25P!!!

I am not 100% sure, but I think some of the same design features have been carried across to the new generation duellers... but I hope not.

Thanks for that, ak & irover.

I'm not advocating these (or any others); thus far for me they've been quite okay, but I'd probably go for something else next time, the BFG's seem to get a good rap.

Something a bit wider would be handy as i do a lot of sand and have to drop the tyres to 18psi at times, we've got a few very soft sand tracks around here.

The Bridgestone name gets me tho': Desert Dueler Mud + Snow, covers all the bases, eh?

If the pic works, this is what they are, they went on about 3 1/2 years ago.

cheers, GQ

Quiggers that's not the 694.