CV in the Drive Shaft

Garry

There is no reason to be rattled, I was just going from what I have read, I have re-checked with RAVE up to VIN 576763, and the I checked up to Freelander MY 01, then I also checked with LR Electronic parts catalogue

Still no CV

Sorry if you didn't like what I said, I was only trying to help - in identifying a problem.

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Originally Posted by ladas

Garry

There is no reason to be rattled, I was just going from what I have read, I have re-checked with RAVE up to VIN 576763, and the I checked up to Freelander MY 01, then I also checked with LR Electronic parts catalogue

Still no CV

Sorry if you didn't like what I said, I was only trying to help - in identifying a problem.

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I see the attached - and I see a Tripode type CV joint, and I also see why it is there - the special characteristic of these is that they allow end movement as well and angular movement - and this allows for the engine movement on its mounts.
John

John

Please put me out of my misery - I am looking, and looking - which bit does everybody else call a CV that I just can't see - or is called by another name -

CV - that's fine
VCU - I understand as a viscous coupling
Coupling - possible ???

Appreciate the correction - we all live to learn

Bottom left in the pic

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Bottom left in the pic

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Thanks - I always know that as a Tri poid joint or coupling - and not a CV joint, I guess you live and learn

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Originally Posted by ladas

Garry

There is no reason to be rattled, I was just going from what I have read, I have re-checked with RAVE up to VIN 576763, and the I checked up to Freelander MY 01, then I also checked with LR Electronic parts catalogue

Still no CV

Sorry if you didn't like what I said, I was only trying to help - in identifying a problem.

See attached

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Sorry if you misinterpreted my response - not rattled and appreciate your comments and I appreciate you thought I may have made an error. Which I am proud to admit that I often do :) .

On the PDF - Bit No 7 - part TV 1000000 indicates a uni but only applies to three parts. Bit No 0 - which is not annotated on the drawing as a part but has Number TVF 000010 is called a joint Tripode - well that is Freelander speak for a Tripode CV joint.

The problem with e-mails is that "tone" can ether be added or indeed not be there, so the wrong tone of the message can be communicated. That is why in communication the actual words only account for about 30% of the communicated message and it is other cues such as body language and inflections in the voice that communicate the remaining 70% of the message - I guess that is why smilies :) were invented to help the communication process in the written electronic word - maybe I should used a few :D.

Cheers

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Sorry if you misinterpreted my response - not rattled and appreciate your comments and I appreciate you thought I may have made an error. Which I am proud to admit that I often do :) .

On the PDF - Bit No 7 - part TV 1000000 indicates a uni but only applies to three parts. Bit No 0 - which is not annotated on the drawing as a part but has Number TVF 000010 is called a joint Tripode - well that is Freelander speak for a Tripode CV joint.

The problem with e-mails is that "tone" can ether be added or indeed not be there, so the wrong tone of the message can be communicated. That is why in communication the actual words only account for about 30% of the communicated message and it is other cues such as body language and inflections in the voice that communicate the remaining 70% of the message - I guess that is why smilies :) were invented to help the communication process in the written electronic word - maybe I should used a few :D.

Cheers

Garry

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Thanks mate appreciate the response:angel:

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

the special characteristic of these is that they allow end movement as well and angular movement - and this allows for the engine movement on its mounts.
John

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I think that is probably the reason but I wonder why not just put in a shaft and uni with a sliding spline like most landy drive shafts have. A hell of a lot cheaper than a CV. Also note that the rear propeller shaft only has universal joints with no spline slider and the rear diff does bounce around in its cradle a fair bit as it is not mounted well (it chews through its rubber mounts a lot) - I think it is the propeller shaft that helps sabilise it.

Also - by way of interst this Triopode CV joint is the same joint that is the inner CV joints on all the axle drive shafts. The outer CVs are the usual cheap ball and cage CVs that anyone with a jap front wheel drive car would be familiar with.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Also - by way of interst this Triopode CV joint is the same joint that is the inner CV joints on all the axle drive shafts. The outer CVs are the usual cheap ball and cage CVs that anyone with a jap front wheel drive car would be familiar with.

Garry

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I suspect that the "cheap ball and cage joints" are actually more expensive to make (not to be confused with retail price), and while associated with Jap cars, they were first used in the mini, and are used in cars from all countries today - not particularly associated with Japan.

This thread has prompted me to write an article on U-joints which hopefully will be finished in time for the next magazine issue.
(Anyone who can point me at good pictures of U-joints in the next couple of days please do so)
John

It's not a good idea to have a uni joint in a straight application. They need at minimum a slight angle to allow movement of the needle bearings. DC prop shafts at the single uni side still have a 1-2 degree built in angle.